Minutes interim-2023-iab-36: Wed 15:00
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Minutes of the 2023-11-22 IAB Business Meeting


1. Administrivia 

1.1. Attendance 

Present:

  Dhruv Dhody
  Lars Eggert (IETF Chair)
  Liz Flynn (IETF Secretariat)
  Wes Hardaker 
  Mallory Knodel 
  Suresh Krishnan 
  Mirja Kühlewind (IAB Chair)
  Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
  Tommy Pauly 
  Colin Perkins (IRTF Chair)
  David Schinazi
  Greg Wood (IETF Director of Communications and Operations)
  Qin Wu 
  Jiankang Yao 

Regrets:

  Roman Danyliw (IESG Liaison)
  Cullen Jennings
  Alvaro Retana 
  Sally Wentworth (ISOC Liaison)
  Christopher Wood 

Observer:

  Arnaud Taddei



1.2. Agenda bash and announcements 

  An executive session on the Independent Submissions Editor 
  appointment was added to the agenda.


1.3. Meeting Minutes 

The following meeting minutes were approved:

  • 2023-10-18 technical discussion - (draft submitted 2023-10-18) 

  • 2023-10-25 business meeting - (draft submitted 2023-10-25)


The following meeting minutes remain under review:


  • 2023-11-05 business meeting - (draft submitted 2023-11-09)

  • 2023-11-07 business meeting - (draft submitted 2023-11-09)

  • 2023-11-09 business meeting - (draft submitted 2023-11-09)



1.4. Action Item Review

Done/OBE:

  • 2023-11-09: Mirja Kühlewind to submit the IAB's signature to the
    Joint statement of scientists and NGOs on the EU’s proposed eIDAS
    reform.

  • 2023-11-09: Mirja Kühlewind to send email announcing the IAB's
    signature of the Joint statement of scientists and NGOs on the EU’s
    proposed eIDAS reform.

  • 2023-11-09: Cindy Morgan to send the call for nominations for the
    ISOC BOT.

  • 2023-08-14: Mirja Kühlewind and Tommy Pauly to work on a
    technical plenary about data privacy.


On Hold:

  • 2023-05-11: Suresh Krishnan et al to write a draft on limited
    domains. (Check back end of June 2023)

  • 2023-06-07: Dhruv Dhody and Mallory Knodel to track adding IAB
    review of proposed WG charters to the Datatracker.
    See https://github.com/ietf-tools/datatracker/issues/5849


In Progress:

  • 2022-07-24: Mallory Knodel and Mirja Kühlewind to draft a document
    outlining the architectural principles that the IAB thinks are
    important and need to be understood when considering Internet
    governance.

  • 2023-05-11: Dhruv Dhody to look at the last ~10 years of IAB
    Workshops and see if there were any concrete outputs.

  • 2023-08-23: Suresh Krishnan to draft a blog post about the E-
    Impact Program.

  • 2023-09-20: Mallory Knodel to incorporate final edits to "IAB
    Statement on Client-side Scanning" and send it to the IAB for a
    final review/approval.

  • 2023-10-04: Suresh Krishnan to draft a response to the NIST request
    for comments on U.S. National Standards Strategy for Critical and
    Emerging Technologies.

  • 2023-11-07: Chris Wood, Tommy Pauly, and Wes Hardaker to work with
    Hannes Tschofenig on a response to the Confidential Computing
    Consortium's liaison statement in response to the IAB Statement on
    Attestation.

  • 2023-11-09: Cindy Morgan and Liz Flynn to move the public IAB wiki
    to wikijs.

  • 2023-11-09: Cindy Morgan/Liz Flynn to post the M-TEN Workshop
    papers in the Datatracker and send a list of updated references to
    the workshop report authors.

  • 2023-11-09: Mirja Kühlewind to reach out to legal regarding design
    teams and contributions.

  • 2023-11-09: Wes Hardaker and Dhruv Dhody to draft a response to the
    Appeal of IESG appeal decision on Meeting Guidance.


New:

  • 2023-11-22: Mirja Kühlewind to invite speakers from Thread Group to
    the IAB Open meeting at IETF 119.

  • 2023-11-22: Cindy Morgan to send a message to the identity-discuss
    list announcing that it will be closed on 2023-12-01, and ask
    people to continue discussions on the WIMSE and SPICE lists.

  • 2023-11-22: Cindy Morgan to post Mirja Kühlewind's email about the
    eIDAS letter as an IAB statement.

  • 2023-11-22: Greg Wood to update the IAB Social media guidelines
    based on the IAB's comments and work with Cindy Morgan to get the
    posted in the wiki.

  • 2023-11-22: Cindy Morgan to send a call for feedback on the
    Independent Submissions Editor.


1.5. IAB Document Status Update

 Datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/stream/iab/

   • draft-arkko-iab-data-minimization-principle-05
     I-D Exists, IAB stream 
     IAB Shepherd: Mirja Kühlewind

   • draft-iab-m-ten-workshop-02
     Sent to the RFC Editor: AUTH48
     IAB Shepherd: Mirja Kühlewind

   • draft-iab-privacy-partitioning-03
     Community Review ended 2023-11-03
     IAB Shepherd: David Schinazi

   • draft-iab-ws-environmental-impacts-report-03
     Community Review ended 2023-10-18
     IAB Shepherd: Wes Hardaker

   • A Vision Statement for the Internet (Mallory, Mirja)


1.6. WG Chartering in Progress (Initial Charters Only)

 Datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/chartering/	

  • Detecting Unwanted Location Trackers (dult)
    Area: SEC
    Draft Charter
    IESG Telechat: (None)
    IAB Reviewer: Not assigned

  • Multiformats (multi)
    Area: ART
    Internal Review
    IESG Telechat: (None)
    IAB Reviewer: Qin Wu

  • vCon (vcon)
    Area: ART
    External Review 
    IESG Telechat: 2023-11-30
    IAB Reviewer: Tommy Pauly


2. Identity-discuss mailing list

  
  It has been announced that this list will close but not when. 
  Cindy Morgan will send a message to the identity-discuss list
  announcing that it will be closed on 2023-12-01, and ask people 
  to direct further discussion to the WIMSE and SPICE lists.


3. eIDAS announcement as statement 

  Mirja Kühlewind sent an email to the ietf-announce list on 
  November 15 announcing that the IAB had signed on to the eIDAS 
  letter. Cindy Morgan will post this email as an IAB statement so 
  it is easier to find in the future. 


4. IAB Social Media Strategy

  Greg Wood presented an IAB Social Media Guidelines draft 
  document and discussed details with the IAB. Greg Wood will 
  update the document based on feedback from the IAB and work with 
  Cindy Morgan to post the guidelines on the IAB wiki.


5. IAB Statement on Encryption and Mandatory Client-side Scanning 
   of Content 

  A small group will use the IAB meeting slot next week to do some 
  editing on this document and bring it back to the full IAB for 
  further discussion. 


6. Executive Session: ISE Appointment

  This item was discussed in executive session. Cindy Morgan will 
  send a call for feedback on the Independent Submissions Editor.


7. Executive Session: Appeal Response

  This item was discussed in executive session.


8. Next IAB Meeting

  The next IAB meeting will be on 2023-12-06.