Minutes interim-2023-iab-37: Sun 13:00
minutes-interim-2023-iab-37-202311051300-00

Minutes of the 2023-11-05 IAB Business Meeting, Prague


1. Administrivia 

1.1. Attendance 

Present:

  Roman Danyliw (IESG Liaison)
  Dhruv Dhody
  Lars Eggert (IETF Chair)
  Wes Hardaker 
  Cullen Jennings
  Mallory Knodel 
  Suresh Krishnan 
  Mirja Kühlewind (IAB Chair)
  Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
  Tommy Pauly 
  Colin Perkins (IRTF Chair)
  Alvaro Retana (remote)
  David Schinazi
  Christopher Wood 
  Greg Wood (IETF Director of Communications and Operations)
  Qin Wu 
  Jiankang Yao (remote)

Regrets:

  None

Guests:

  Jane Coffin (IRSG)
  Ignacio Castro (IRSG)


2. Confidential Computing Consortium response to Statement on the Risks 
   of Attestation

  Mirja Kühlewind asked whether the email from the Confidential 
  Computing Consortium (CCC) in response to the IAB Statement on the 
  risks of attestation should be posted as a liaison statement. The IAB 
  agreed that it should, as long as the confirms that it was not meant 
  to be a private email. Mirja will follow up with Dan Middleton and 
  ask whether this can be posted as a liaison statement.


3. Adopting draft-edm-protocol-greasing 

  Tommy Pauly said that the EDM Program meeting on 2023-11-06 will 
  discuss draft-edm-protocol-greasing, and noted that a request to 
  adopt this document on the IAB Stream will be coming soon.

  Lars Eggert said that this document might be better as a BCP on the 
  IETF Stream.

  Tommy Pauly will bring this document back to an IAB meeting for 
  further discussion after the EDM Program meeting at IETF 118.


4. NIST RFI response 

  Suresh Krishnan reported that the deadline to respond to the NIST 
  request for comments on U.S. National Standards Strategy for Critical 
  and Emerging Technologies has been extended to 2023-12-22.

  The IAB discussed their response to the request for comments. Suresh 
  Krishnan will update the draft text and bring it back to the IAB for 
  further review.


5. IAB Statement on Encryption and Client-side Scanning of Content

  The IAB discussed the draft text for the proposed IAB Statement on 
  Encryption and Client-side Scanning of Content. 


6. Human Rights Protocol Considerations (HRPC) Rechartering 

  The IAB discussed the proposed updates to the Human Rights Protocol 
  Considerations (HRPC) Research Group charter. As part of the 
  rechartering effort, the RG would be renamed to Human Rights and 
  Policy Considerations.

  Tommy Pauly suggested that the text clarify that "policy" refers to 
  policy for technical protocols, and not policies about human rights 
  as a whole.

  Mirja Kühlewind expressed concerns about having a Research Group 
  whose goal is to inform policy makers about the IETF.

  Mallory Knodel said that this is about the technical constraints that 
  might inform policy choices.

  Colin Perkins noted that the HRPC has been talking about policy since 
  its inception, and this update is to reflect that in the charter.

  Several IAB members still have concerns with the proposed charter 
  text. Mallory Knodel asked the IAB to think about ways to move this 
  forward.


7. eIDAS Article 45 

  This topic was deferred to the IAB meeting on 2023-11-07.


8. Executive Session: Appeal of IESG appeal decision on Meeting 
   Guidance 

  This topic was deferred to the IAB meeting on 2023-11-09.