Minutes interim-2023-iesg-02 2023-01-19 15:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the January 19, 2023 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area
Qin Wu (Huawei) / IAB Liaison

REGRETS
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area

OBSERVERS
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Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the January 05, 2023 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the January 05, 2023 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the January 05, 2023 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-jmap-blob-18  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-proxy-yang-10  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-deployment-05  (Informational)
o draft-zern-webp-12  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items
    
DONE:
 NONE   
     
IN PROGRESS:
o Lars Eggert, Warren Kumari, Éric Vyncke, and Rob Wilton to discuss 
  whether to reconstruct the document approval announcements to be more 
  meaningful.
o Murray Kucherawy and Warren Kumari to coordinate with Barry Leiba and 
  IANA about possibly updating text regarding IANA registries and expert 
  review process detailed in RFC 8216.
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 8141 (Formal 
  URN Namespaces, Informal URN Namespaces) [IANA #1263515].

ON HOLD: 
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in March 2023.   
 
NEW:
 NONE     

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-opsawg-sap-15  - IETF stream
    A YANG Network Model for Service Attachment Points (SAPs) (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Robert Wilton. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-acme-subdomains-06  - IETF stream
    Automated Certificate Management Environment (ACME) for Subdomains
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Paul Wouters.*

  o draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc8312bis-14  - IETF stream
    CUBIC for Fast and Long-Distance Networks (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Duke

Lars Eggert formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will 
send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Martin 
Duke confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent.

2.1.2 Returning items
    
  o draft-ietf-ohai-ohttp-06  - IETF stream
    Oblivious HTTP (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Francesca Palombini

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Eric Vyncke and Paul Wouters.*

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
    
  o draft-gont-numeric-ids-sec-considerations-10  - IETF stream
    Security Considerations for Transient Numeric Identifiers Employed
    in Network Protocols (Best Current Practice)
    Token: Paul Wouters

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert and Alvaro Retana.

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-opsec-indicators-of-compromise-03  - IETF stream
    Indicators of Compromise (IoCs) and Their Role in Attack Defence
    (Informational)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Eric Vyncke.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-irtf-nwcrg-tetrys-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-nwcrg-tetrys
      draft-irtf-nwcrg-tetrys-04
      Tetrys, an On-the-Fly Network Coding Protocol (IRTF: Experimental)
    Token: Erik Kline

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Erik Kline.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o Secure Asset Transfer Protocol (satp)
    Area: ART (Paul Wouters)
  
The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (February 02, 2023).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

  o Post-Quantum Use In Protocols (pquip)
    Area: SEC (Roman Danyliw)
  
The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Action announcement.  

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1263515] Designated experts for RFC 8141 (Uniform Resource 
    Names (URNs)) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 8141 (Uniform Resource Names (URNs)) was assigned to 
Francesca Palombini prior to the start of the teleconference.

6.2 IESG Confirmation of NomCom selections for Trust and LLC (Lars 
    Eggert)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG has confirmed the NomCom 
selections for the IETF Trust and the IETF LLC Board of Directors.

6.3 Approval of updated IESG statement "Guidance on Face-to-Face and 
    Virtual Interim Meetings " (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.

6.4 [IANA #1262465] renewing early allocation for draft-ietf-pce-local-
    protection-enforcement (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-pce-local-protection-enforcement.

6.5 2023 Retreat Planning (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.