Minutes interim-2023-iesg-04 2023-02-02 15:00
minutes-interim-2023-iesg-04-202302021500-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 02, 2023 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Incoming Routing Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Stephanie McCammon (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Paige Mustafa (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area
Qin Wu (Huawei) / IAB Liaison

REGRETS
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OBSERVERS
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Richard Barnes
Alissa Cooper
Suresh Krishnan
Lee-Berkeley Shaw
Rene Struik

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the January 19, 2023 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the January 19, 2023 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the January 19, 2023 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-homenet-naming-architecture-dhc-options-24  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-opsawg-service-assurance-yang-11  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-cdni-additional-footprint-types-11  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-homenet-front-end-naming-delegation-26  (Experimental)
o draft-ietf-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture-13  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items
    
DONE:
o Murray Kucherawy and Warren Kumari to coordinate with Barry Leiba and 
  IANA about possibly updating text regarding IANA registries and 
  expert review process detailed in RFC 8216.
 
IN PROGRESS:
o Lars Eggert, Warren Kumari, Éric Vyncke, and Rob Wilton to discuss 
  whether to reconstruct the document approval announcements to be more 
  meaningful.
o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 8141 (Formal 
  URN Namespaces, Informal URN Namespaces) [IANA #1263515].

ON HOLD:
o Robert Wilton, Alvaro Retana, and Warren Kumari to report back to the 
  IESG on the impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in March 2023.
  
NEW:
 NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-mls-protocol-17  - IETF stream
    The Messaging Layer Security (MLS) Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Paul Wouters

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert.*

  o draft-ietf-shmoo-remote-fee-05  - IETF stream
    Open Participation Principle regarding Remote Registration Fee
    (Best Current Practice)
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Francesca Palombini and Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-elegy-rfc8989bis-04  - IETF stream
    Nominating Committee Eligibility (Best Current Practice)
    Token: Lars Eggert

Martin Duke formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will 
send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Lars 
Eggert confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent.

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-lwig-curve-representations-23  - IETF stream
    Alternative Elliptic Curve Representations (Informational)
    Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-mls-architecture-10  - IETF stream
    The Messaging Layer Security (MLS) Architecture (Informational)
    Token: Paul Wouters

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Zaheduzzman Sarker, and Eric Vyncke.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o Time-Variant Routing (tvr)
    Area: RTG (Alvaro Retana)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-
work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the 
next IESG Teleconference (February 16, 2023).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

  o More Instant Messaging Interoperability (mimi)
    Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the 
addition of chairs to be provided by Murray Kucherawy. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Action announcement.

  o Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim)
    Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert.* 

  o Secure Asset Transfer Protocol (satp)
    Area: ART (Paul Wouters)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1262464] renewing early allocation for draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-
    evpn-aggregation-label (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the 
early allocations for draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-evpn-aggregation-label.

6.2 IETF 116 Hours of Operation (Secretariat)

The management issue was discussed. 

6.3 IETF 116 Mics in 40-U and 20-U (Secretariat)

The management issue was discussed.

6.4 Host Speaker Series (Secretariat)

The management issue was discussed. 

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.