Minutes interim-2023-iesg-09 2023-04-27 14:00
minutes-interim-2023-iesg-09-202304271400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the April 27, 2023 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Dhruv Dhody (Huawei) / IAB Liaison
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area

REGRETS
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Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area

OBSERVERS
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Ooooduke
Greg Wood
Lee-Berkeley Shaw

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the April 13, 2023 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the April 13, 2023 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public 
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the April 13, 2023 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-opsawg-add-encrypted-dns-12  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-opsawg-tlstm-update-14  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-raw-use-cases-11  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items 
    
DONE:
o Lars Eggert and Mirja Kühlewind to figure out the start and stop 
  times each day for the 2023 retreat in Seattle.
 o The IESG and IAB to write feedback for the ICANN listening session.

IN PROGRESS:
o Éric Vyncke to follow-up with the tools team on auto-populating the 
  approval announcement text in the "ballot text" section (document 
  abstract, responsible AD, document shepherd).
o Warren Kumari to follow up on a bis document for RFC 8126 regarding 
  designated experts.
o Robert Wilton to draft a proposal to the tools team for what the 
  requested information regarding mail statistics should look like.
o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 9347, ESP 
  AGGFRAG_PAYLOAD registry [IANA #1265971].
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 7462 (URNs for 
  the Alert-Info Header Field of the Session Initiation Protocol [SIP])
  [IANA #1266696].
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-jmap-blob-18 
  (JMAP Blob management extension) [IANA #1267309].
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for Structured Syntax 
  Suffixes (RFC 6838) IANA #1270651].
        
ON HOLD:
o Robert Wilton and Warren Kumari to report back to the IESG on the 
  impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in July 2023.
o Lars Eggert to send email to the LLC about Letters of Invitation for 
  Interim Meetings and Retreats.
  
NEW:
 NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-ace-cmpv2-coap-transport-09  - IETF stream
    CoAP Transfer for the Certificate Management Protocol (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Paul Wouters

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Paul Wouters. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-spring-nsh-sr-12  - IETF stream
    Integration of Network Service Header (NSH) and Segment Routing for
    Service Function Chaining (SFC) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Andrew Alston

Jim Guichard formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will 
send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once 
Andrew Alston confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-lsp-ping-09  - IETF stream
    LSP-Ping Mechanisms for EVPN and PBB-EVPN (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Andrew Alston

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Jim Guichard, John Scudder, and Eric 
Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-sbom-access-16  - IETF stream
    Discovering and Retrieving Software Transparency and Vulnerability
    Information (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Robert Wilton. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-add-ike-11  - IETF stream
    Internet Key Exchange Protocol Version 2 (IKEv2) Configuration for
    Encrypted DNS (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Zaheduzzaman Sarker and Paul Wouters.*

  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-labeled-ipsec-11  - IETF stream
    Labeled IPsec Traffic Selector support for IKEv2 (Proposed 
    Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

Paul Wouters formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The  Secretariat will 
send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Roman 
Danyliw confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-23  - IETF stream
    The ALT Special Use Top Level Domain (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Robert Wilton

Warren Kumari formally recused himself from the discussion. The 
document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Robert Wilton confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

The Secretariat will add RFC 8244 to the downref registry.

2.1.2 Returning items
    
  o draft-ietf-add-dnr-16  - IETF stream
    DHCP and Router Advertisement Options for the Discovery of
    Network-designated Resolvers (DNR) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Éric Vyncke

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Éric Vyncke. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-add-svcb-dns-08  - IETF stream
    Service Binding Mapping for DNS Servers (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Éric Vyncke

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Éric Vyncke. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-nvo3-evpn-applicability-05  - IETF stream
    Applicability of EVPN to NVO3 Networks (Informational)
    Token: Andrew Alston

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Andrew Alston confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-irtf-panrg-path-properties-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-panrg-path-properties
      draft-irtf-panrg-path-properties-08
      A Vocabulary of Path Properties (IRTF: Informational)
    Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Zaheduzzaman Sarker.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o Network Inventory Modeling Base YANG (nimby)
    Area: OPS (Robert Wilton)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Robert Wilton.*  

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

  o Lightweight Authenticated Key Exchange (lake)
    Area: SEC (Paul Wouters)

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter 
pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Paul 
Wouters. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a 
separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the 
WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference after the conclusion 
of external review.

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 To Approve the tools team use of static.ietf.org (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the tools team 
use of static.ietf.org.

6.2 Updating the IESG statement on IEEE EtherTypes (Éric Vyncke)

The management issue was discussed.  

6.3 Moderation of  tls-reg-review@ietf.org (Paul Wouters)

The management issue was discussed. 

6.4 ICANN Board Listening Session (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG agreed on the feedback 
for the ICANN Board listening session.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.