Minutes interim-2023-iesg-11 2023-05-25 14:00
minutes-interim-2023-iesg-11-202305251400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the May 25, 2023 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Dhruv Dhody (Huawei) / IAB Liaison
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area

OBSERVERS
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Lucas Pardue
Lee-Berkeley Shaw
Greg Wood


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the April 27, 2023 and May 04, 2023 Teleconferences were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public 
archives.

The narrative minutes of the April 27, 2023 and May 04, 2023 
Teleconferences were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes 
in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the May 04, 2023 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-ipv6-options-12  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-masque-connect-ip-13  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-ipsecme-add-ike-14  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-i2nsf-registration-interface-dm-26  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-sidrops-roa-considerations-08  (Best Current Practice)
o draft-ietf-sfc-ioam-nsh-13  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 NONE 
 
1.3 Review of Action Items 
    
DONE:
o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 9347, ESP 
  AGGFRAG_PAYLOAD registry [IANA #1265971]. 
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-jmap-blob-18 
  (JMAP Blob management extension) [IANA #1267309].
o Martin Duke to find designated experts for draft-ietf-masque-connect-
  ip (Proxying IP in HTTP) [IANA #1272616].
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 7462 (URNs for 
  the Alert-Info Header Field of the Session Initiation Protocol [SIP])
  [IANA #1266696].
o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for Structured Syntax 
  Suffixes (RFC 6838) IANA #1270651].

IN PROGRESS:
o Warren Kumari to follow up on a bis document for RFC 8126 regarding 
  designated experts.
o Robert Wilton to draft a proposal to the tools team for what the 
  requested information regarding mail statistics should look like.
o Lars Eggert to send email to the LLC about Letters of Invitation for 
  Interim Meetings and Retreats. 
o Eric Vyncke to follow up on updating the title from "IESG Note" to 
  "Public IESG Note”.

ON HOLD:
o Robert Wilton and Warren Kumari to report back to the IESG on the 
  impact of COVID-19 to the IETF in July 2023.
  
NEW:
o Roman Danyliw to draft email to Jay Daley on the experiment for 
  overflow meeting slots at IETF 117.
    
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-digest-headers-12  - IETF stream
    Digest Fields (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Paul Wouters.*

  o draft-ietf-cellar-matroska-16  - IETF stream
    Matroska Media Container Format Specifications (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Zaheduzzaman Sarker, John Scudder, and 
Paul Wouters.*

  o draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rib-extend-20  - IETF stream
    RIB Extension YANG Data Model (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jim Guichard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Jim Guichard confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-terminology-08  - IETF stream
    Update to OSPF Terminology (Proposed Standard)
    Token: John Scudder

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-babel-mac-relaxed-04  - IETF stream
    Relaxed Packet Counter Verification for Babel MAC Authentication
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Andrew Alston

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Andrew Alston. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-13  - IETF stream
    Export of Segment Routing over IPv6 Information in IP Flow
    Information Export (IPFIX) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Andrew Alston.*

  o draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8920bis-04  - IETF stream
    OSPF Application-Specific Link Attributes (Proposed Standard)
    Token: John Scudder

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-lsr-rfc8919bis-03  - IETF stream
    IS-IS Application-Specific Link Attributes (Proposed Standard)
    Token: John Scudder

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-cose-aes-ctr-and-cbc-05  - IETF stream
    CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE): AES-CTR and AES-CBC
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Paul Wouters

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Paul Wouters. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-pim-rfc8736bis-04  - IETF stream
    PIM Message Type Space Extension and Reserved Bits (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Jim Guichard

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
    
  o draft-ietf-ippm-explicit-flow-measurements-03  - IETF stream
    Explicit Host-to-Network Flow Measurements Techniques
    (Informational)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jim Guichard and Zaheduzzaman Sarker.*

  o draft-ietf-httpapi-yaml-mediatypes-06  - IETF stream
    YAML Media Type (Informational)
    Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Zaheduzzaman Sarker confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.


3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-schanzen-gns-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-schanzen-gns
      draft-schanzen-gns-23
      The GNU Name System (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Warren Kumari.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4.3 For action

  o conflict-review-urn-ddi-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-urn-ddi
      draft-urn-ddi-05
      A Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for the Data
    Documentation Initiative (DDI) (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document was assigned to Roman Danyliw for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o BPF/eBPF (bpf)
    Area: INT (Erik Kline)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Eric Vyncke.*  

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

  o Serialising Extended Data About Times and Events (sedate)
    Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 IANA #1272616] Designated expert for draft-ietf-masque-connect-ip 
    (Proxying IP in HTTP) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Tommy Pauly 
<tpauly@apple.com> and Magnus Westerlund 
<magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> as the designated experts for draft-
ietf-masque-connect-ip (Proxying IP in HTTP).

6.2 [IANA #1270829] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-
    segment-routing-te-policy (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the 
early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy.

6.3 IETF 117 Networking Reception Information (Lee-Berkeley Shaw)

The management issue was discussed.

6.4 [IANA #1265971] Designated experts for RFC 9347, ESP 
    AGGFRAG_PAYLOAD registry (Roman Danyliw)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Christian Hopps 
<chopps@chops.org> as the designated expert for RFC 9347, ESP 
AGGFRAG_PAYLOAD registry.

6.5 IETF 117 experiment on meeting overflow slots (Roman Danyliw)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Roman Danyliw to draft email to Jay Daley on the 
experiment for overflow meeting slots at IETF 117.

6.6 Designated experts for RFC-ietf-jmap-blob-18 (Murray Kucherawy)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Ken Murchison 
<murch@fastmail.com> and Neil Jenkins <neilj@fastmailteam.com> as the 
designated experts for RFC-ietf-jmap-blob-18.

6.7 Designated experts for RFC 7462 (URNs for the Alert-Info Header 
    Field of the Session Initiation Protocol [SIP]) [IANA #1266696] 
    (Murray Kucherawy)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Dale Worley 
<worley@ariadne.com> as the designated expert for RFC 7462 (URNs for 
the Alert-Info Header Field of the Session Initiation Protocol [SIP]).

6.8 Designated experts for Structured Syntax Suffixes (RFC 6838) IANA 
    #1270651] (Murray Kucherawy)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Alexey Melnikov 
<alexey.melnikov@isode.com>, Darrel Miller <darrel@tavis.ca>, and 
Murray Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com> as the designated experts for 
Structured Syntax Suffixes (RFC 6838).

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.