Minutes interim-2023-iesg-13 2023-06-08 14:00
minutes-interim-2023-iesg-13-202306081400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the June 08, 2023 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dhruv Dhody (Huawei) / IAB Liaison
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

OBSERVERS
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Justin Richer
Ketan Talaulikar
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the May 25, 2023 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the May 25, 2023 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the May 25, 2023 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-srv6-srh-14  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-lsp-ping-11  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
o Roman Danyliw to draft email to Jay Daley on the experiment for overflow
meeting slots at IETF 117. o Mirja Kuhlewind to write a summary blog post from
IETF 116.

IN PROGRESS:
o Warren Kumari to follow up on a bis document for RFC 8126 regarding
designated experts. o Rob Wilton to draft a proposal to the tools team for what
the requested information
 regarding mail statistics should look like.
o Lars Eggert to send email to the LLC about Letters of Invitation for Interim
Meetings and Retreats. o Lars Eggert and Martin Duke to rewrite IESG statement
to give more guidance about
 issuing LOIs for interim meetings.
o Éric Vyncke to follow up on updating the title from "IESG Note" to "Public
IESG Note”. o One AD from each area to diagram their area topology and send
it to Martin Duke for collation. o Roman Danyliw to open a Datatracker issue
suggesting a feature to better signal
 individual contributions.
o Martin Duke, Zahed Sarker, and John Scudder to work with Jay Daley and  Brad
Biddle
 to come up with canned IPR Disclosure text and possible proposals for other
 updates.
o Lars Eggert to ask the LLC to come up with a proposal on how we can support
 a pre-configured remote participation option in side meeting rooms.
o Lars Eggert to write an update to the Support Documents in IETF Working
Groups statement.

ON HOLD:
o Robert Wilton and Warren Kumari to report back to the IESG on the impact of
COVID-19
 to the IETF in July 2023.

NEW:
o Murray Kucherawy to respond to the email "RFC 1952: Any plan for a new extra
field registry."

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-lsr-ip-flexalgo-14  - IETF stream
   IGP Flexible Algorithms (Flex-Algorithm) In IP Networks (Proposed
   Standard)
   Token: John Scudder

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be
completed by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-pce-pcep-stateful-pce-gmpls-22  - IETF stream
   Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) Extensions
   for Stateful PCE Usage in GMPLS-controlled Networks (Proposed
   Standard)
   Token: John Scudder

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be
completed by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-srv6-extensions-14  - IETF stream
   OSPFv3 Extensions for SRv6 (Proposed Standard)
   Token: John Scudder

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

 o draft-ietf-httpbis-message-signatures-17  - IETF stream
   HTTP Message Signatures (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Paul Wouters

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

 o draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-08  - IETF stream
   DNS Glue Requirements in Referral Responses (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Warren Kumari

Paul Wouters formally recused himself from the discussion. The document
was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will
send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once
Warren Kumari confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent.

2.1.2 Returning items
 NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
 NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
 NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
 NONE

3.1.2 Returning items
 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
 NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 o conflict-review-farrell-tenyearsafter-00
   IETF conflict review for draft-farrell-tenyearsafter
     draft-farrell-tenyearsafter-00
     Reflections on Ten Years Past The Snowden Revelations (ISE:
   Informational)
   Token: Paul Wouters

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Paul Wouters.

 o conflict-review-irtf-cfrg-rsa-blind-signatures-00
   IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-cfrg-rsa-blind-signatures
     draft-irtf-cfrg-rsa-blind-signatures-12
     RSA Blind Signatures (IRTF: Informational)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Roman Danyliw.

 o conflict-review-irtf-pearg-censorship-00
   IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-pearg-censorship
     draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-10
     A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques (IRTF: Informational)
   Token: Paul Wouters

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Paul Wouters, pending a
final check to be completed by Paul Wouters.

 o conflict-review-irtf-cfrg-ristretto255-decaf448-00
   IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-cfrg-ristretto255-decaf448
     draft-irtf-cfrg-ristretto255-decaf448-07
     The ristretto255 and decaf448 Groups (IRTF: Informational)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Roman Danyliw.

3.4.2 Returning items
 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 o Machine Learning for Audio Coding (mlcodec)
   Area: ART (Murray Kucherawy)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (June 22, 2023).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
 NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
 NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
 NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1268221] renewing early allocation(s) for draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam
(IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early
allocations for draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam.

6.2 [IANA #1270830] renewing early allocations for
draft-bonica-6man-comp-rtg-hdr (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early
allocations for draft-bonica-6man-comp-rtg-hdr.

6.3 [IANA #1274442] Designated expert for IS-IS TLV Codepoints (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Hannes Gredler
<hannes@gredler.at> as the designated expert for the following IS-IS registries:

o IS-IS Sub-Sub-TLVs for BIER Info Sub-TLV
o IS-IS Sub-Sub-TLV Codepoints for Application-Specific Link Attributes
o IS-IS Sub-TLVs for Application-Specific SRLG TLV

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.

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