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Date and time 2023-09-07 14:00
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minutes-interim-2023-iesg-19-202309071400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the September 7, 2023 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Dhruv Dhody (Huawei) / IAB Liaison
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area

REGRETS
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director 

OBSERVERS
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Gorry Fairhurst
Lee-Berkeley Shaw
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 24, 2023 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative  minutes of the August 24, 2023 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August24, 2023 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

  o draft-ietf-spring-sr-replication-segment-19  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-lake-edhoc-22  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions

  o draft-ietf-opsec-probe-attribution-09  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items  

DONE:

  o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9457 on Problem 
    Details for HTTP APIs [IANA #1277796]

IN PROGRESS:

  o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 9393 on Concise 
    Software Identification Tags [IANA #1275658].

  o Rob Wilton to find designated experts for RFC 9445 (RADIUS 
    Extensions for DHCP-Configured Services) [IANA #1279159]

  o Warren Kumari to follow up on a bis document for RFC 8126 regarding 
    designated experts.

  o Roman Danyliw to open a Datatracker issue suggesting a feature to 
    better signal individual contributions

  o Andrew Alston, Murray Kucherawy, Zahed Sarker, Martin Duke, John 
    Scudder, and Jim Guichard to draft text regarding document 
    authorship/editorship with regards to the number of authors listed.

  o Lars Eggert to facilitate a community discussion on priorities for 
    IESG processes.

  o Lars Eggert and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC 4858, 
    2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document Shepherds (original 
    statement October 2010), and 3) update the WG Chairs wiki to point 
    to the new IESG Statement.

  o Warren Kumari to follow up with the tools team regarding removing 
    the requirement of needing an author email for deceased authors.

NEW:

  NONE
 
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-taps-interface-22  - IETF stream
    An Abstract Application Layer Interface to Transport Services
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Lars Eggert, and Erik Kline.*

  o draft-ietf-taps-arch-18  - IETF stream
    An Architecture for Transport Services (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-rats-eat-21  - IETF stream
    The Entity Attestation Token (EAT) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Murray Kucherawy and Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-privacypass-auth-scheme-12  - IETF stream
    The Privacy Pass HTTP Authentication Scheme (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Paul Wouters

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Francesca Palombini and Robert Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-uuidrev-rfc4122bis-11  - IETF stream
    Universally Unique IDentifiers (UUID) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Robert Wilton and Paul Wouters.*

  o draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures-07  - IETF stream
    Negative Caching of DNS Resolution Failures (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Warren Kumari. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.1.2 Returning items

  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items

  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-taps-impl-16  - IETF stream
    Implementing Interfaces to Transport Services (Informational)
    Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Zaheduzzaman Sarker. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-core-target-attr-05  - IETF stream
    CoRE Target Attributes Registry (Informational)
    Token: Robert Wilton

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Robert Wilton. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning items

  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items

  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1279159] Designated experts for RFC 9445 (RADIUS Extensions 
    for DHCP-Configured Services) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 9445 was assigned to Robert Wilton prior to the start 
of the teleconference.

6.2. [IANA #1277796] Designated experts for RFC 9457 on Problem Details 
     for HTTP APIs (Murray Kucherawy)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Mark Nottingham 
(mnot@mnot.net) and Sanjay Dalal (sanjay.dalal@cal.berkeley.edu) as the 
designated experts for RFC 9457 on Problem Details for HTTP APIs.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.