Minutes interim-2023-iesg-21 2023-09-21 14:00
minutes-interim-2023-iesg-21-202309211400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the September 21, 2023 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Dhruv Dhody (Huawei) / IAB Liaison
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director 
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area

OBSERVERS
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Marius vd Leek
Lee-Berkeley Shaw
Tim Wicinski
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the minutes of past telechats

The minutes of the September 7, 2023 Teleconference were approved. 
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the September 7, 2023 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public 
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the September 7, 2023 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

1.2.2 Document Actions

 o draft-ietf-ntp-chronos-25  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:

     o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 9393 on 
       Concise Software Identification Tags [IANA #1275658].


IN PROGRESS: 

     o Rob Wilton to find designated experts for RFC 9445 (RADIUS 
       Extensions for DHCP-Configured Services) [IANA #1279159]

     o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for draft-yee-ssh-
       iana-requirements-03 (Key Exchange Method Names) [IANA 
       #1281831].

     o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 9447, ACME 
       Authority Token Challenge Types" [IANA #1281679].

     o Warren Kumari to follow up on a bis document for RFC 8126 
       regarding designated experts.

     o Roman Danyliw to open a Datatracker issue suggesting a 
       feature to better signal individual contributions

     o Andrew Alston, Murray Kucherawy, Zahed Sarker, Martin Duke, 
       John Scudder, and Jim Guichard to draft text regarding 
       document authorship/editorship with regards to the number 
       of authors listed.

     o Lars Eggert to facilitate a community discussion on 
       priorities for IESG processes.

     o Lars Eggert and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC 
       4858, 2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document        
       Shepherds (original statement October 2010), and 3) update 
       the WG Chairs wiki to point to the new IESG Statement.

     o Warren Kumari to follow up with the tools team regarding 
       removing the requirement of needing an author email for 
       deceased authors.


NEW:

     o Martin Duke to draft an email to the community about the 
       ART/TSV Area merger.

     o John Scudder to update the NomCom instructions from the 
       IESG with information about the ART/TSV merger.

     o John Scudder to follow up on the RSWG Chair appointment.


2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-mediaman-haptics-05  - IETF stream
   The 'haptics' Top-level Media Type (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Murray Kucherawy. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement.


 o draft-ietf-mediaman-toplevel-03  - IETF stream
   Guidelines for the Definition of New Top-Level Media Types 
   (Best Current Practice)
   Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Lars Eggert and Paul Wouters.*


 o draft-ietf-privacypass-protocol-14  - IETF stream
   Privacy Pass Issuance Protocol (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Paul Wouters

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Francesca Palombini, Murray Kucherawy, 
and Roman Danyliw.*


 o draft-ietf-lamps-nf-eku-04  - IETF stream
   X.509 Certificate Extended Key Usage (EKU) for 5G Network 
   Functions (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement.


 o draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-25  - IETF stream
   Federated Authentication for the Registration Data Access 
   Protocol (RDAP) using OpenID Connect (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (2023-10-05) 
by Roman Danyliw.


 o draft-ietf-regext-rdap-redacted-14  - IETF stream
   Redacted Fields in the Registration Data Access Protocol (RDAP)
   Response (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Paul Wouters.*


 o draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis-09  - IETF stream
   DNS Terminology (Best Current Practice)
   Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Zaheduzzaman Sarker.*


2.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

 NONE

2.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-lake-traces-07  - IETF stream
   Traces of EDHOC (Informational)
   Token: Paul Wouters

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Paul Wouters. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Document Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-privacypass-architecture-15  - IETF stream
   The Privacy Pass Architecture (Informational)
   Token: Paul Wouters

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Paul Wouters. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Document Action Announcement.


 o draft-ietf-dprive-unilateral-probing-12  - IETF stream
   Unilateral Opportunistic Deployment of Encrypted
   Recursive-to-Authoritative DNS (Experimental)
   Token: Éric Vyncke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Paul Wouters.*


3.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

 NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 NONE

3.4.2 Returning items

 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 o Multiformats (multi)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Murray Kucherawy, Paul Wouters, and Roman 
Danyliw.*

 o Structured Email (sml)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate 
message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on 
the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (2023-10-05).


4.1.2 Proposed for approval

 NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

 NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

 NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 Executive Session: RSWG Chair Appointment (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed in an executive session. The 
IESG appointed Russ Housley as the new RSWG Chair.

Action item: John Scudder to follow up on the RSWG Chair 
appointment.


6.2 Discussion of TSV/ART Merger (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Martin Duke to draft an email to the community about 
the ART/TSV Area merger.

Action item: John Scudder to update the NomCom instructions from 
the IESG with information about the ART/TSV merger.


6.3 [IANA #1281699] renewing early allocation for draft-ietf-core-
oscore-edhoc (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the 
early allocation for draft-ietf-core-oscore-edhoc.


6.4 [IANA #1281831] Designated experts for draft-yee-ssh-iana-
requirements-03 (Key Exchange Method Names) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find 
designated experts for draft-yee-ssh-iana-requirements-03 (Key 
Exchange Method Names) was assigned to Roman Danyliw prior to the start of the teleconference.


6.5 [IANA #1281679] Designated experts for RFC 9447, ACME 
Authority Token Challenge Types" (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find 
designated experts for RFC 9447, ACME Authority Token Challenge 
Types" was assigned to Roman Danyliw prior to the start of the 
teleconference.


6.6 Executive Session (Andrew Alston)

The management issue was discussed in an executive session.


6.7 [IANA #1282095] Management Item: Acceptance of media type 
registration from standards organization C2PA - Coalition for 
Content Provenance and Authenticity (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process 
this media-type request, but not to add this organization to the 
'Standards-related organizations that have registered Media Types 
in the Standards Tree.' 


6.8 Designated experts for RFC 9393 on Concise Software 
Identification Tags [IANA #1275658] (Roman Danyliw)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the 
following designated experts for RFC 9393 on Concise Software 
Identification Tags:

  o Charles M Schmidt <cmschmidt@mitre.org>
  o Jessica Fitzgerald-McKay <jmfitz2@cyber.nsa.gov>
  o Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de>

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.