Minutes interim-2023-iesg-23 2023-10-19 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 19, 2023 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area

REGRETS
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Dhruv Dhody (Huawei) / IAB Liaison
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area

OBSERVERS
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Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the minutes of past telechats

The minutes of the October 5, 2023 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the October 5, 2023 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 5, 2023 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-evpn-aggregation-label-14  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-privacypass-protocol-16  (Proposed Standard)
1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slices-25  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-core-target-attr-06  (Informational)
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:

 o Warren Kumari to follow up with the tools team regarding
   removing the requirement of needing an author email for
   deceased authors.

IN PROGRESS:

o Rob Wilton to find designated experts for RFC 9445 (RADIUS
   Extensions for DHCP-Configured Services) [IANA #1279159]

 o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for draft-yee-ssh-
   iana-requirements-03 (Key Exchange Method Names) [IANA #1281831].

 o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 9447, ACME
   Authority Token Challenge Types" [IANA #1281679].

 o Warren Kumari to follow up on a bis document for RFC 8126
   regarding designated experts.

 o Roman Danyliw to open a Datatracker issue suggesting a feature
   to better signal individual contributions

 o Andrew Alston, Murray Kucherawy, Zahed Sarker, Martin Duke,
   John Scudder, and Jim Guichard to draft text regarding
   document authorship/editorship with regards to the number of
   authors listed.

 o Lars Eggert to facilitate a community discussion on priorities
   for IESG processes.

 o Lars Eggert and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC
   4858, 2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document Shepherds
   (original statement October 2010), and 3) update the WG Chairs
   wiki to point to the new IESG Statement.

 o Erik Kline to follow up with authors of draft-ietf-6man-
   rfc6874bis to schedule a conversation about the document.

NEW:

 o Francesca Palombini to draft an update to the wiki page "Getting
   a Document on the Agenda."

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-sedate-datetime-extended-10  - IETF stream
   Date and Time on the Internet: Timestamps with additional
   information (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Francesca Palombini

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert.*

 o draft-ietf-cellar-flac-12  - IETF stream
   Free Lossless Audio Codec (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

 o draft-ietf-intarea-rfc7042bis-10  - IETF stream
   IANA Considerations and IETF Protocol and Documentation Usage for
   IEEE 802 Parameters (Best Current Practice)
   Token: Éric Vyncke

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be
completed by Éric Vyncke. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-grow-bmp-registries-change-04  - IETF stream
   Revision to Registration Procedures for Multiple BMP Registries
   (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Warren Kumari

John Scudder formally recused himself from the discussion. The document
was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.1.2 Returning items

 o draft-ietf-calext-jscontact-15  - IETF stream
   JSContact: A JSON representation of contact data (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be
completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

 NONE

2.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

 NONE

3.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

 NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 o conflict-review-irtf-icnrg-ccnx-timetlv-00
   IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-icnrg-ccnx-timetlv
     draft-irtf-icnrg-ccnx-timetlv-05
     Alternative Delta Time Encoding for CCNx Using Compact
   Floating-Point Arithmetic (IRTF: Experimental)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Roman Danyliw.

 o conflict-review-makarenko-gost2012-dnssec-00
   IETF conflict review for draft-makarenko-gost2012-dnssec
     draft-makarenko-gost2012-dnssec-03
     Use of GOST 2012 Signature Algorithms in DNSKEY and RRSIG
   Resource Records for DNSSEC (ISE: Informational)
   Token: Paul Wouters

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Paul Wouters.

3.4.2 Returning items

 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

 NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

 NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

 NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1283141] RFC 2004 and IANA protocol number entry (Erik Kline)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved changing the
entry for protocol number 55 as follows:

Protocol: 55
Keyword: Min-IPv4
Protocol: Minimal IPv4 Encapsulation
Reference: [RFC2004][Charles Perkins]

6.2 [IANA #1281698] renewing early allocation for
draft-ietf-mpls-egress-tlv-for-nil-fec (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing
the early allocation for draft-ietf-mpls-egress-tlv-for-nil-fec.

6.3 Telechat dates between 118 and 119

The management issue was discussed.

6.4 Telechat Agenda Wiki Update (Francesca Palombini)

The management issue was discussed. Francesca Palombini to
draft an update to the wiki page "Getting a Document on the Agenda."

6.5 Approve Important Dates for IETF 120, 121

The management issues was discussed. The IESG approved Important
Dates for IETF 120 and IETF 121.

6.6 draft-ietf-core-sid (Francesca Palombini)

The management issue was discussed.

6.7 Signaling Individual Contributions in the Datatracker (Roman Danyliw)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.