Minutes interim-2023-iesg-26 2023-12-14 15:00
minutes-interim-2023-iesg-26-202312141500-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the December 14, 2023 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat


ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director 
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (Mozilla) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area


REGRETS
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Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Dhruv Dhody (Huawei) / IAB Liaison
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Transport Area


OBSERVERS
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Mahesh Jethanandani
Orie Steele
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the minutes of past telechats


The narrative minutes of the October 19, 2023 Teleconference were approved. 
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The minutes of the November 30, 2023 Teleconference were approved. 
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the November 30, 2023 Teleconference were approved. 
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.


1.2 Documents Approved since the November 30, 2023 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-alias-proxy-status-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ippm-otwamp-on-lag-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-cdni-delegation-acme-04  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines-22  (Best Current Practice)
  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim-23  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-spring-mpls-path-segment-22  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2. Document Actions

  o draft-ietf-ippm-pam-09  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-privacypass-architecture-16  (Informational)



1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE: 

  o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for CoRE Target 
    Attributes Registry (draft-ietf-core-target-attr)[IANA #1287397].

  o Francesca Palombini to draft an update to the wiki page "Getting
    a Document on the Agenda."


IN PROGRESS: 

  o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 9447, ACME 
    Authority Token Challenge Types" [IANA #1281679].

  o Robert Wilton to find designated experts for RFC 9487 (Export of 
    Segment Routing over IPv6 Information in IP Flow Information Export 
    (IPFIX))[IANA #1287238].

  o Robert Wilton to find designated experts for RFC 9456 (Updates to 
    the TLS Transport Model for SNMP)[IANA #1287239].

  o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 9493 (Subject 
    Identifiers for Security Event Tokens)

  o Warren Kumari to follow up on a bis document for RFC 8126 regarding 
    designated experts.

  o Andrew Alston to email the RSWG regarding document authorship/
    editorship with regards to the number of authors listed.

  o Lars Eggert and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC 4858, 
    2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document Shepherds (original 
    statement October 2010), and 3) update the WG Chairs wiki to point 
    to the new IESG Statement.


NEW: 

  o Francesca Palombini to review and merge updates to the wiki page 
    "Getting a Document on the Agenda."



2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-ccamp-layer1-types-16  - IETF stream
   A YANG Data Model for Layer 1 Types (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Roman Danyliw
 
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by John Scudder and Éric Vyncke.*


 o draft-ietf-openpgp-crypto-refresh-12  - IETF stream
   OpenPGP (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

Paul Wouters formally recused himself from the discussion.
The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.


 o draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-evc-06  - IETF stream
   RTP Payload Format for Essential Video Coding (EVC) (Proposed
   Standard)
   Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Éric Vyncke.*


 o draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-07  - IETF stream
   DNS Error Reporting (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Paul Wouters.*


2.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

 NONE

2.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

 NONE

3.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

 NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 NONE

3.4.2 Returning items

 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

 o Network Management Operations (nmop)

The revised charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Robert Wilton.*  

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

 NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

 o Open Specification for Pretty Good Privacy (openpgp)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending
final checks to be provided by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will 
send a WG Action announcement.


 o Transport and Services Working Group (tsvwg)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending
final checks to be provided by Martin Duke. The Secretariat will 
send a WG Action announcement.


 o TCP Maintenance and Minor Extensions (tcpm)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending
final checks to be provided by Martin Duke. The Secretariat will 
send a WG Action announcement.


 o Path Computation Element (pce)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending
final checks to be provided by John Scudder. The Secretariat will 
send a WG Action announcement.


 o Javascript Object Signing and Encryption (jose)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending
final checks to be provided by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will 
send a WG Action announcement.


 o WebRTC Ingest Signaling over HTTPS (wish)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 


5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 Executive Session: NomCom Confirmations

The management issue was discussed. The IESG confirmed the LLC Board of 
Directors candidate and the IETF Trust candidate presented by NomCom.


6.2 [IANA #1288077] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-pce-
    segment-routing-ipv6

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the 
early allocations for draft-ietf-pce-segment-routing-ipv6.


6.3 [IANA #1291684] Designated experts for RFC 9493 (Subject 
    Identifiers for Security Event Tokens)

The management issue was discussed. This action item was assigned to Roman Danyliw.


6.4 [IANA #1287397] Designated experts for CoRE Target Attributes 
    Registry (draft-ietf-core-target-attr) (Francesca Palombini)

The management item was discussed. The IESG approved Carsten Bormann 
<cabo@tzi.org> and Marco Tiloca <marco.tiloca@ri.se> as the designated 
experts for CoRE Target Attributes Registry.


7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.