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Date and time 2024-03-18 22:00
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Minutes of the 2024-03-19 IAB Business Meeting, Brisbane Australia

Present

  Matthew Bocci 
  Alissa Cooper 
  Roman Danyliw 
  Dhruv Dhody
  Lars Eggert (IETF Chair)
  Wes Hardaker
  Suresh Krishnan 
  Mirja Kühlewind 
  Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager)
  Tommy Pauly (IAB Chair)
  Colin Perkins (IRTF Chair)
  Alvaro Retana 
  David Schinazi
  John Scudder (IESG Liaison)
  Sally Wentworth (ISOC Liaison)
  Greg Wood
  Qin Wu 
  Jiankang Yao 

Regrets:

  Cullen Jennings
  Mallory Knodel 
  Christopher Wood 

Guests:

  Olaf Kolkman
  Ryan Polk 
  Aftab Siddiqi


1. Internet Society Pulse

  Ryan Polk, Aftab Siddiqi, and Olaf Kolkman joined the IAB to talk 
  about the Internet Society's Pulse project 
  (https://pulse.internetsociety.org/).

  Pulse was launched in December 2020 to curate Internet measurement 
  data from trusted sources to help everyone gain deeper, data-driven 
  insight into the Internet.

  Pulse uses trusted data from multiple sources. It is intended to 
  assess whether efforts to ensure that the Internet remains open, 
  globally connected, secure, and trustworthy are working. Pulse allows 
  policymakers, researchers, journalists, network operators, civil 
  society groups, and others to better understand the health, 
  availability, and evolution of the Internet.

  Pulse tracks the resilience of the Internet ecosystem by monitoring 
  how much services are concentrated in the hands of a few, and what 
  the state of deployment is for technologies critical to the evolution 
  of the Internet. 

  Pulse also monitors Internet shutdowns. In 2023, Pulse recorded:

    • 18 Countries experiencing an intentional Internet shutdown
    • 124 Shutdown events ranging from 2 hours to months
    • 2370 Total number of days of disruption

  Shutdowns tend to occur in response to several factors:

    • Civil unrest and protests
    • Armed conflict
    • Elections
    • National or regional exams

  Dhruv Dhody noted that in India, shutdowns mostly affect mobile 
  networks, and asked whether that is true in other places. Aftab 
  Siddiqi replied that in South Asia, 95% of broadband service is 
  mobile, so that is there shutdowns happen.

  Pulse has a NetLoss tool to estimate the economic cost of Internet 
  shutdowns. This can help Internet advocates show regulators that 
  shutting down the Internet is harmful to their economy.

  Pulse tracks the health and resiliency of the Internet by curating 
  data on several areas:

    • The implementation of enabling technologies
    • The concentration of services on the Internet
    • Close to 30 individual metrics used to calculate the Internet 
      Resiliency Index, and
    • Country reports highlighting key insights from the data

  The Internet Resiliency Index (IRI) collates around 30 sets of public 
  metric data that relate to four pillars of a resilient Internet:

  1) Infrastructure: The existence and availability of physical 
     infrastructure that provides Internet connectivity.

  2) Performance: The ability of the network to provide end-users 
     with seamless and reliable access to Internet services.

  3) Security: The ability of the network to resist intentional or 
     unintentional disruptions through the adoption of security 
     technologies and best practices.

  4) Market Readiness: The ability of the market to self-regulate and 
     provide affordable prices to end-users by maintaining a diverse 
     and competitive market.

  Roman Danyliw asked how difficult it is to add tracking new 
  protocols. Aftab Siddiqi replied that at the moment it is very 
  difficult, so they are trying to pick easier ones.

  Tommy Pauly asked whether we could look at the blocking of certain 
  protocols like QUIC, rather than full outages. Aftab Siddiqi replied 
  that blocking or protocols was not something they are currently 
  considering, but they do measure VPN use. 
	

2. IAB Vision Document

  The IAB discussed the vision document. Several people noted that the 
  current document is not clear as to what its purpose or intended 
  audience is. Wes Hardaker said that he sees three different documents 
  in the current text: one on what the Internet is from a visionary 
  point of view, one that talks about the architectural principles of 
  the Internet, and one that talks about current trends and 
  observations. 

  Lars Eggert noted that the original intent of this document was to 
  outline the architectural principles that the IAB thinks are 
  important and need to be understood when considering Internet 
  governance, but that the current text has drifted from that. He noted 
  that the Internet Society does a lot of work in this space, and 
  suggested that it might be better to point to some of their existing 
  materials. 

  The IAB decided to suspend further work on this document and try to 
  focus more on what it would be useful for the IAB to say in this 
  space. Sally Wentworth said that she can circulate this with the 
  Internet Society and see where they think the IAB's input would be 
  useful.