Minutes interim-2024-iesg-03 2024-02-01 15:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 1, 2024 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat


ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Dhruv Dhody (Huawei) / IAB Liaison
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (Mozilla) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Incoming Operations and Management Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Orie Steele (Transmute) / Incoming Applications and Real-Time Area
Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Incoming Routing Area
Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area


REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director 
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison


OBSERVERS
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Deb Cooley
Suresh Krishnan
Eliot Lear
Greg Wood



MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the minutes of past telechats

The minutes of the January 18, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the January 18, 2024 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.


1.2 Documents Approved since the January 18, 2024 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

  o draft-ietf-alto-oam-yang-17  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-scsi-layout-nvme-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-opsawg-rfc7125-update-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-netconf-over-tls13-04  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-lamps-rfc8399bis-05  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ace-key-groupcomm-18  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-oam-15  (Proposed Standard)


1.2.2 Document Actions

  o draft-ietf-lsr-isis-area-proxy-12  (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-detnet-pof-11  (Informational)


1.3 List of remaining action items from last telechat


DONE:

     o Roman Danyliw to find designated experts for RFC 9447, ACME 
       Authority Token Challenge Types" [IANA #1281679].

     o Robert Wilton to find designated experts for RFC 9487 
       (Export of Segment Routing over IPv6 Information in IP Flow 
       Information Export (IPFIX))[IANA #1287238].


IN PROGRESS: 

     o Warren Kumari and Murray Kucherawy to follow up on a bis 
       document for RFC 8126 regarding designated experts.

     o Andrew Alston to email the RSWG regarding document 
       authorship/editorship with regards to the number of authors listed.

     o Lars Eggert and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC 4858, 
       2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document Shepherds (original 
       statement October 2010), and 3) update the WG Chairs wiki to point 
       to the new IESG Statement.

NEW: 

 NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-netconf-crypto-types-29  - IETF stream
   YANG Data Types and Groupings for Cryptography (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Robert Wilton

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw and Paul Wouters.*


 o draft-ietf-netconf-keystore-30  - IETF stream
   A YANG Data Model for a Keystore (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Robert Wilton

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw and Paul Wouters.*


 o draft-ietf-netconf-trust-anchors-23  - IETF stream
   A YANG Data Model for a Truststore (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Robert Wilton

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.*


 o draft-ietf-suit-mud-07  - IETF stream
   Strong Assertions of IoT Network Access Requirements (Proposed
   Standard)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Éric Vyncke and Robert Wilton.*


 o draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-28  - IETF stream
   YANG Model for OSPFv3 Extended LSAs (Proposed Standard)
   Token: John Scudder

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*


 o draft-ietf-drip-auth-46  - IETF stream
   DRIP Entity Tag Authentication Formats & Protocols for Broadcast
   Remote ID (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Eric Vyncke

The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference 
(February 15, 2024) by Paul Wouters.


 o draft-ietf-lamps-x509-policy-graph-04  - IETF stream
   Updates to X.509 Policy Validation (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement.


2.1.2 Returning items

 o draft-ietf-netconf-https-notif-14  - IETF stream
   An HTTPS-based Transport for YANG Notifications (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Robert Wilton

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by John Scudder.*


2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

 NONE

2.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-6man-sids-05  - IETF stream
   Segment Identifiers in SRv6 (Informational)
   Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Andrew Alston, Jim Guichard, and John Scudder.*


3.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

 NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 o conflict-review-irtf-hrpc-guidelines-00
   IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-hrpc-guidelines
     draft-irtf-hrpc-guidelines-20
     Guidelines for Human Rights Protocol and Architecture
   Considerations (IRTF: Informational)
   Token: Paul Wouters

The conflict review remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.*


 o conflict-review-farinacci-lisp-lispers-net-nat-00
   IETF conflict review for draft-farinacci-lisp-lispers-net-nat
     draft-farinacci-lisp-lispers-net-nat-07
     lispers.net LISP NAT-Traversal Implementation Report (ISE:
   Informational)
   Token: Éric Vyncke

The conflict review remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Martin Duke and Paul Wouters.*


 o conflict-review-cuiling-dnsop-sm2-alg-00
   IETF conflict review for draft-cuiling-dnsop-sm2-alg
     draft-cuiling-dnsop-sm2-alg-15
     SM2 Digital Signature Algorithm for DNSSEC (ISE: Informational)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Roman Danyliw.


3.4.2 Returning items

 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

 o Network Management Operations (nmop)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
the creation of a mailing list to be provided by the Secretariat. 
The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.



4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

 NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

 NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1281679] Designated experts for RFC 9447, ACME Authority 
Token Challenge Types" (Roman Danyliw)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Mary Barnes 
<mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com> as the designated expert for RFC 
9447.


6.2 [IANA #1352987] Acceptance of media type registration from standards 
organization MIDI Manufacturers Association (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 


6.3 [IANA #1353885] Acceptance of media type registration from standards 
organization Trust Over IP Foundation Technology Stack Working Group -2 (TSWG) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asked for more time 
to review this request and will discuss it again at the next IESG 
Teleconference (February 15, 2024).


6.4 [IANA #1287238] Designated experts for RFC 9487 (Export of Segment Routing over 
IPv6 Information in IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX)) (Rob Wilton)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Thomas Graf 
<Thomas.Graf@swisscom.com>, Pierre Francois <pierre.francois@insa-lyon.fr>,
 Andrew Feren <andrew.feren@plixer.com>, Brian Trammell 
<ietf@trammell.ch>, Nevil Brownlee <n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz>, 
and Paul Aitken <paitken@ciena.com> as designated experts for RFC 9487.


7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.