Minutes interim-2024-iesg-06: Thu 15:00
minutes-interim-2024-iesg-06-202403071500-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the March 7, 2024 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat


ATTENDEES
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Andrew Alston (Liquid Intelligent Technologies) /  Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Deb Cooley / Incoming Security Area
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Dhruv Dhody (Huawei) / IAB Liaison
Martin Duke (Google) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (Mozilla) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Incoming Operations and Management Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Jean Mahoney (AMS) / RFC Editor
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Orie Steele (Transmute) / Incoming Applications and Real-Time Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Incoming Routing Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area


REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director 
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area


OBSERVERS
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Greg Wood
Jeffrey Zhang

MINUTES
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1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the February 29, 2024 Teleconference need more time for review. 


1.2 Documents Approved since the February 24, 2024 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

     o draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-error-reporting-08  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-yang-13  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-extra-jmapaccess-08  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-scip-09  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-cellar-flac-14  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions

     o draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-over-ip-preof-11  (Informational)
     o draft-ietf-lamps-pkcs12-pbmac1-08  (Informational)


1.3 Review of Action Items

IN PROGRESS: 

     o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9422 (SMTP Server
       Limits) [IANA #1358457].

     o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9530 (Digest 
       Fields) [IANA #1359278].

     o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9535 (JSONPath: 
       Query Expressions for JSON)[IANA #1359744].

     o Lars Eggert and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC 4858, 
       2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document Shepherds (original 
       statement October 2010), and 3) update the WG Chairs wiki to point 
       to the new IESG Statement.


DONE:

     o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9421 (HTTP Message 
       Signatures)[IANA #1359281].

     o Warren Kumari and Murray Kucherawy to follow up on a bis document for 
       RFC 8126 regarding designated experts.

     o Andrew Alston to email the RSWG regarding document authorship/
       editorship with regards to the number of authors listed.


2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-mcast-11  - IETF stream
   EVPN Optimized Inter-Subnet Multicast (OISM) Forwarding (Proposed
   Standard)
   Token: Andrew Alston

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Andrew Alston confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.


 o draft-ietf-opsawg-mud-iot-dns-considerations-12  - IETF stream
   Operational Considerations for use of DNS in IoT devices (Best
   Current Practice)
   Token: Robert Wilton

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Paul Wouters.*


 o draft-ietf-gnap-core-protocol-18  - IETF stream
   Grant Negotiation and Authorization Protocol (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Francesca Palombini and Paul Wouters.*


 o draft-ietf-lamps-cms-kemri-08  - IETF stream
   Using Key Encapsulation Mechanism (KEM) Algorithms in the
   Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.



2.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

 NONE

2.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-lamps-e2e-mail-guidance-15  - IETF stream
   Guidance on End-to-End E-mail Security (Informational)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Murray Kucherawy and Paul Wouters.*


3.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

 o draft-tenoever-tao-retirement-04  - IETF stream
   Retiring the Tao of the IETF (Informational)
   Token: Lars Eggert

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Document Action Announcement.


3.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 NONE

3.4.2 Returning items

 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

 o Workload Identity in Multi System Environments (wimse)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
the addition of chairs to be provided by Murray Kucherawy. 

The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.


4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

 NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

 NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 Early registration of COSE Header Parameters c5b, c5c, c5t and c5u 

The management item was discussed.


6.2 ALLDISPATCH Agenda

The management issue was discussed.


6.3 Designated experts for RFC 9421 (HTTP Message Signatures)
     [IANA #1359281]

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Justin Richer
<ietf@justin.richer.org> and Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
 as the designated experts for RFC 9421.


7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.