Minutes interim-2024-iesg-12: Thu 14:00
minutes-interim-2024-iesg-12-202405301400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the May 30, 2024 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Deb Cooley / Security Area
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area
Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area
David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Orie Steele (Transmute) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area
Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area


REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director 
Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison


OBSERVERS
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Adrian Farrel
Bob Hinden
Justin Iurman
David Lawrence
Janfred Rieckers


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the minutes

The minutes of the May 16, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the May 16, 2024 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.


1.2 Documents Approved since the May 16, 2024 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

     o draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping-11  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-lamps-ocsp-nonce-update-11  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-ipsecme-multi-sa-performance-09  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-dhc-addr-notification-13  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-6lo-multicast-registration-19  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-add-resolver-info-13  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-mpls-mldp-multi-topology-09  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-sidrops-signed-tal-16  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-lamps-cms-sha3-hash-04  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-httpbis-sfbis-06  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions

NONE


1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE: 

NONE


IN PROGRESS: 

     o Roman Danyliw and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC 4858, 
       2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document Shepherds (original 
       statement October 2010), and 3) update the WG Chairs wiki to point 
       to the new IESG Statement.

     o Paul Wouters to open up an issue with the Tools Team asking for 
       IANA to be notified about document state changes.

     o Paul Wouters to write a proposal for handling IANA review
       mailing lists.

     o All IESG to review Non-WG List Review spreadsheet and note
       which lists may be ready for closure and any needed AD Actions.


NEW:

     o Orie Steele to find designated experts for RFC 9553 (JSContact 
       registries)[IANA #1364749]



2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-18  - IETF stream
   Refresh-interval Independent FRR Facility Protection (Proposed
   Standard)
   Token: Jim Guichard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and John Scudder.*


 o draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-17  - IETF stream
   Tunnel Extensible Authentication Protocol (TEAP) Version 1
   (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Paul Wouters

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*


 o draft-ietf-jmap-contacts-09  - IETF stream
   JMAP for Contacts (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Mahesh Jethanandani and Orie Steele.*


 o draft-ietf-lamps-cert-binding-for-multi-auth-05  - IETF stream
   Related Certificates for Use in Multiple Authentications within a
   Protocol (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Paul Wouters.*


 o draft-ietf-6man-hbh-processing-18  - IETF stream
   IPv6 Hop-by-Hop Options Processing Procedures (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Warren Kumari.*


 o draft-ietf-mpls-egress-tlv-for-nil-fec-13  - IETF stream
   Egress Validation in Label Switched Path Ping and Traceroute
   Mechanisms (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Jim Guichard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Gunter Van de Velde.*


 o draft-ietf-mboned-multicast-telemetry-09  - IETF stream
   Multicast On-path Telemetry using IOAM (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Gunter Van de Velde and Éric Vyncke.*


2.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

 NONE

2.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

 o status-change-mpls-rfc7506-to-historic-01  - IETF stream
   Move RFC 7506 to Historic (None)
   Token: Jim Guichard

The IESG agreed to change the status of RFC 7506 from Proposed Standard 
to Historic. The Secretariat will send a Protocol Action Announcement.


2.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-teas-pcecc-use-cases-16  - IETF stream
   Use Cases for a PCE as a Central Controller (PCECC) (Informational)
   Token: Jim Guichard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Jim Guichard confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.


 o draft-ietf-mops-ar-use-case-17  - IETF stream
   Media Operations Use Case for an Extended Reality Application on
   Edge Computing Infrastructure (Informational)
   Token: Éric Vyncke

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Éric Vyncke. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.


 o draft-ietf-bmwg-benchmarking-stateful-07  - IETF stream
   Benchmarking Methodology for Stateful NATxy Gateways using RFC 4814
   Pseudorandom Port Numbers (Informational)
   Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Erik Kline and Éric Vyncke.*


 o draft-ietf-6man-comp-rtg-hdr-09  - IETF stream
   The IPv6 Compact Routing Header (CRH) (Experimental)
   Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Zaheduzzaman Sarker and Paul Wouters.*


 o draft-ietf-mpls-mna-requirements-15  - IETF stream
   Requirements for Solutions that Support MPLS Network Actions (MNA)
   (Informational)
   Token: Jim Guichard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Jim Guichard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.


3.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

 NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 NONE

3.4.2 Returning items

 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 o DNS Delegation (deleg)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Murray Kucherawy.*  


 o SRv6 Operations (srv6ops)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference on June 13, 2024.


4.1.2 Proposed for approval

 o Secure Patterns for Internet CrEdentials (spice)

The IESG deferred the discussion of the charter until the next 
IESG Teleconference on June 13, 2024.


4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

 NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

 o EAP Method Update (emu)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending
edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Paul Wouters. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.


5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1364749] Designated experts for RFC 9553 (JSContact registries)

The management issue was discussed. An action item was assigned
to Orie Steele.


6.2 [IANA #1364807] renewing early allocation for draft-ietf-bess-
evpn-ipvpn-interworking

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the
early allocation for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-ipvpn-interworking. 


6.3 Executive Session: Second review of IETF 120 BoFs 

The management issue was discussed in executive session. 


6.4 Executive Session: IETF 126 Meeting Planning 

The management issue was discussed in executive session. 


7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)



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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.