Minutes interim-2024-iesg-13: Thu 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the June 13, 2024 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Deb Cooley / Security Area
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area
Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area
David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison
Orie Steele (Transmute) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area
Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area


REGRETS
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Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area


OBSERVERS
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Dave Thaler
David Vernet
Greg Wood


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the May 30, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the May 30, 2024 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.


1.2 Documents Approved since the May 30, 2024 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

  o draft-ietf-emu-rfc7170bis-19  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-6man-hbh-processing-20  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5990bis-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-rift-rift-24  (Proposed Standard)

 
1.2.2 Document Actions

  o draft-ietf-6man-comp-rtg-hdr-10  (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-teas-pcecc-use-cases-18  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-mpls-mna-requirements-16  (Informational)


1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:

o Orie Steele to find designated experts for RFC 9553 (JSContact 
       registries)[IANA #1364749]

IN PROGRESS:

  o Roman Danyliw and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC 4858, 
     2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document Shepherds (original 
     statement October 2010), and 3) update the WG Chairs wiki to point 
     to the new IESG Statement.

   o Paul Wouters to open up an issue with the Tools Team asking for 
       IANA to be notified about document state changes.

    o Paul Wouters to write a proposal for handling IANA review
       mailing lists.

   o All IESG to review Non-WG List Review spreadsheet and note
       which lists may be ready for closure and any needed AD Actions.


2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-mpls-spring-inter-domain-oam-17  - IETF stream
   Path Monitoring System/Head-end based MPLS Ping and Traceroute in
   Inter-domain Segment Routing Networks (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Jim Guichard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by John Scudder and Gunter Van de Velde.*


 o draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-zero-checksum-10  - IETF stream
   Zero Checksum for the Stream Control Transmission Protocol
   (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Deb Cooley and Paul Wouters.*


 o draft-ietf-teas-actn-vn-yang-28  - IETF stream
   A YANG Data Model for Virtual Network (VN) Operations (Proposed
   Standard)
   Token: Jim Guichard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action
Announcement once Jim Guichard confirms that the announcement
is ready to be sent. The IESG agreed that the references to RFC 7926,
RFC 8309, and RFC 8435 should be listed as normative references in the
document. The IESG approved the downrefs for RFC 8309 and RFC 8453.


 o draft-ietf-bpf-isa-03  - IETF stream
   BPF Instruction Set Architecture (ISA) (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Murray Kucherawy.*


2.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

 NONE

2.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-rift-applicability-15  - IETF stream
   RIFT Applicability (Informational)
   Token: Jim Guichard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Jim Guichard confirms that the announcement
is ready to be sent.


 o draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn-19  - IETF stream
   A Framework for Network Resource Partition (NRP) based Enhanced
   Virtual Private Networks (Informational)
   Token: Jim Guichard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Jim Guichard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.



3.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

 NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 NONE

3.4.2 Returning items

 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

 o Secure Patterns for Internet CrEdentials (spice)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 


 o SRv6 Operations (srv6ops)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*  


4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

 NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

 o A Semantic Definition Format for Data and Interactions of Things (asdf)

The revised charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Zaheduzzaman Sarker.*  


5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 IETF 120 BOFs - Final Decisions (All)

The management item was discussed.


6.2 [IANA #1365923] Management Item: Acceptance of media type registration 
requests from the World Meteorological Organization (WMO)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 


6.3 Designated experts for RFC 9553 (JSContact registries) [IANA #1364749] 
(Orie Steele)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Michael Douglass
 <mikeadouglass@gmail.com>, Mario Loffredo <mario.loffredo@iit.cnr.it>, 
and Robert Stepanek <rsto@fastmailteam.com> as the designated 
experts for RFC 9553.


6.4 Telechat schedule between IETF 120-121 (Liz)

The management item was discussed. 


6.5 [IANA #1364810] renewing early allocations for 
draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model

The management item was discussed. This item will return on 
the next telechat agenda. 


6.6 Last call expiry date

The management item was discussed. 


6.7 IESG Retreat Agenda (Roman)

The management item was discussed. 


6.8 Executive Session: IETF 125 Planning

This management item was deferred to a future IESG teleconference due
to time constraints.


6.9 Executive Session: PR Action (Roman)

The management item was discussed in an executive session.


7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.