Minutes interim-2024-iesg-14: Thu 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the June 20, 2024 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Deb Cooley / Security Area
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director 
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area (first hour only)
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area
Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair
Colin Perkins (University of Glasgow) / IRTF Chair
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Orie Steele (Transmute) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area


REGRETS
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Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area
David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area


OBSERVERS
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Behcet Sarikaya
Ben Schwartz
Greg Wood


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

  The minutes of June 13, 2024 need more time for review. 


1.2 Documents Approved since the June 13, 2024 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

     o draft-ietf-mediaman-haptics-05  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-mediaman-toplevel-05  (Best Current Practice)
     o draft-ietf-oauth-security-topics-29  (Best Current Practice)
     o draft-ietf-mpls-egress-tlv-for-nil-fec-15  (Proposed Standard)
     o draft-ietf-jmap-contacts-10  (Proposed Standard)


1.2.2 Document Actions

     o draft-ietf-bmwg-benchmarking-stateful-09  (Informational)
     o draft-ietf-rift-applicability-17  (Informational)
     o draft-ietf-teas-enhanced-vpn-20  (Informational)


1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE: 

     o Paul Wouters to open up an issue with the Tools Team asking for 
       IANA to be notified about document state changes.

IN PROGRESS: 

     o Roman Danyliw and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC 4858, 
       2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document Shepherds (original 
       statement October 2010), and 3) update the WG Chairs wiki to point 
       to the new IESG Statement.

     o Paul Wouters to write a proposal for handling IANA review
       mailing lists.

     o All IESG to review Non-WG List Review spreadsheet and note
       which lists may be ready for closure and any needed AD Actions.

NEW: 

     o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9577 (The Privacy 
       Pass HTTP Authentication Scheme) [IANA #1366921].


2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-dtn-ipn-update-11  - IETF stream
   Update to the ipn URI scheme (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Erik Kline

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Mahesh Jethanandani.*


 o draft-ietf-add-split-horizon-authority-13  - IETF stream
   Establishing Local DNS Authority in Validated Split-Horizon
   Environments (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Eric Vyncke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Murray Kucherawy and John Scudder.*


 o draft-ietf-cbor-update-8610-grammar-05  - IETF stream
   Updates to the CDDL grammar of RFC 8610 (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Orie Steele

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Orie Steele confirms that the announcement is ready to be 
sent.



 o draft-ietf-rats-eat-27  - IETF stream
   The Entity Attestation Token (EAT) (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.


 o draft-ietf-dnsop-qdcount-is-one-03  - IETF stream
   In the DNS, QDCOUNT is (usually) One (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Warren Kumari

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Warren Kumari. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.



2.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

 NONE

2.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-08  - IETF stream
   The DNS Zone Version (ZONEVERSION) Option (Informational)
   Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by John Scudder, Eric Vyncke, and Paul Wouters.*



3.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

 NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 NONE

3.4.2 Returning items

 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

 o DNS Delegation (deleg)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*  


4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

 NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

 NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1364810] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model (IANA)

The management item was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model.


6.2 Executive Session: IETF 125 Planning (Roman)

The management item was discussed in executive session.


6.3 IETF 120 Agenda Conflict Resolution (Liz)

The management item was discussed. 


6.4 [IANA #1366749] renewing early allocation for draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding (IANA)

The management item was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-lsr-dynamic-flooding.


6.5 [IANA #1366921] Designated experts for RFC 9577 
(The Privacy Pass HTTP Authentication Scheme) (IANA)

An action item to find designated experts for RFC 9577 (The Privacy
Pass HTTP Authentication Scheme) was assigned to Paul Wouters prior to
the start of the teleconference.


6.6 Executive Session: IANA submitter issue

The management item was discussed in executive session. 


7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.