Minutes interim-2024-iesg-16: Thu 14:00
minutes-interim-2024-iesg-16-202408081400-00
| Meeting Minutes | Internet Engineering Steering Group (iesg) IETF | |
|---|---|---|
| Date and time | 2024-08-08 14:00 | |
| Title | Minutes interim-2024-iesg-16: Thu 14:00 | |
| State | Active | |
| Other versions | plain text | |
| Last updated | 2024-08-22 |
minutes-interim-2024-iesg-16-202408081400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the August 8, 2024 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Deb Cooley (Department of Homeland Security, Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency) / Security Area Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Karen Moore (AMS) / RFC Production Center Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area Orie Steele (Transmute) / Applications and Real-Time Area Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area Paul Wouters (Aiven) / Security Area OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Martin Duke Jeffry Handal Greg Wood Kaliya Young MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the July 11, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the July 11, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the June 20, 2024 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions • draft-ietf-mpls-spring-inter-domain-oam-20 (Proposed Standard) • draft-ietf-mpls-sr-epe-oam-19 (Proposed Standard) • draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-11 (Proposed Standard) • draft-ietf-uta-ciphersuites-in-sec-syslog-07 (Proposed Standard) • draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-zero-checksum-11 (Proposed Standard) • draft-ietf-mpls-msd-yang-12 (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions • draft-ietf-tls-keylogfile-02 (Informational) • draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization-15 (Informational) • draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc3849-update-05 (Informational) 1.3 Review of Action Items IN PROGRESS: • Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for RFC 9595 (YANG Schema Item iDentifier (YANG SID)) [IANA #1369452]. • Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9580 (OpenPGP) [IANA #1369457]. • Roman Danyliw and Warren Kumari to 1) draft a revision of RFC 4858, 2) draft a revised IESG Statement on Document Shepherds (original statement October 2010), and 3) update the WG Chairs wiki to point to the new IESG Statement. • Paul Wouters to write a proposal for handling IANA review mailing lists. • All IESG to review Non-WG List Review spreadsheet and note which lists may be ready for closure and any needed AD Actions. • Orie Steele, Francesca Palombini, Murray Kucherawy, Mahesh Jethanandani, Warren Kumari to write draft of IESG statement addressing issue of credit in documents & the importance of capturing and addressing all comments as a necessary part of the consensus process, mostly pointing at existing advice. • Murray Kucherawy and Éric Vyncke to create a draft IESG statement about using 2119 language. • Murray Kucherawy to draft an IESG statement on use of Internet- Drafts to meet "specification required" in IANA registries. • Roman Danyliw to reach out Systers about the value of writing recommendation letters to employers. • Roman Danyliw to reach out to Dhruv Dhody to better track outreach initiatives. DONE: • Eric Vyncke to find designated experts for RFC 9575 (DRIP Entity Tag (DET) Authentication Formats and Protocols for Broadcast Remote Identification (RID)) [IANA #1367328] • Eric Vyncke to find designated experts for RFC 9606 (DNS Resolver Information") [IANA #1367528]. 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-rift-yang-16 - IETF stream YANG Data Model for Routing in Fat Trees (RIFT) (Proposed Standard) Token: Jim Guichard The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Jim Guichard confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-opsawg-mud-tls-16 - IETF stream Manufacturer Usage Description (MUD) (D)TLS Profiles for IoT Devices (Proposed Standard) Token: Paul Wouters The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Mahesh Jethanandani and Murray Kucherawy.* o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-mh-split-horizon-10 - IETF stream EVPN Multi-Homing Extensions for Split Horizon Filtering (Proposed Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.* o draft-ietf-cose-key-thumbprint-05 - IETF stream CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE) Key Thumbprint (Proposed Standard) Token: Paul Wouters Orie Steele formally recused himself from the discussion. The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Paul Wouters. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-ccwg-rfc5033bis-07 - IETF stream Specifying New Congestion Control Algorithms (Best Current Practice) Token: Zaheduzzaman Sarker The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.* o draft-ietf-lisp-name-encoding-11 - IETF stream LISP Distinguished Name Encoding (Proposed Standard) Token: Jim Guichard The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Paul Wouters.* Once the document is approved, the Secretariat will add RFC 8060 (Experimental) to the downref registry. o draft-ietf-cdni-https-delegation-subcerts-09 - IETF stream CDNI Metadata for Delegated Credentials (Proposed Standard) Token: Francesca Palombini The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Murray Kucherawy and Paul Wouters.* o draft-ietf-extra-processimip-08 - IETF stream Sieve Email Filtering: Extension for Processing Calendar Attachments (Proposed Standard) Token: Murray Kucherawy The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Murray Kucherawy. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-pim-3228bis-06 - IETF stream IANA Considerations for Internet Group Management Protocols (Best Current Practice) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Paul Wouters.* o draft-ietf-pim-3376bis-11 - IETF stream Internet Group Management Protocol, Version 3 (Internet Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Gunter Van de Velde. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-pim-3810bis-11 - IETF stream Multicast Listener Discovery Version 2 (MLDv2) for IPv6 (Internet Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Gunter Van de Velde. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-idr-bgp-sendholdtimer-15 - IETF stream Border Gateway Protocol 4 (BGP-4) Send Hold Timer (Proposed Standard) Token: Roman Danyliw The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-lsr-labv-registration-03 - IETF stream Revision to Registration Procedures for IS-IS Neighbor Link-Attribute Bit Values (Proposed Standard) Token: Gunter Van de Velde The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-mops-treedn-05 - IETF stream TreeDN- Tree-based CDNs for Live Streaming to Mass Audiences (Informational) Token: Eric Vyncke The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement once Eric Vyncke confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. o draft-ietf-teas-gmpls-controller-inter-work-15 - IETF stream Interworking of GMPLS Control and Centralized Controller Systems (Informational) Token: Jim Guichard The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Jim Guichard. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement. 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items o draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-09 - IETF stream Antitrust Guidelines for IETF Participants (Informational) Token: Roman Danyliw The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Roman Danyliw. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement. 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items NONE 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for approval NONE 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for approval NONE 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 [IANA #1367916] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-sr- policy-safi (IANA) The management issue was deferred to the next IESG teleconference on August 22, 2024. 6.2 [IANA #1367328] Designated experts for RFC 9575 (DRIP Entity Tag (DET) Authentication Formats and Protocols for Broadcast Remote Identification (RID)) (Eric Vyncke) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Adam Wiethuechter <adam.wiethuechter@axenterprize.com> and Mohamed Boucadair <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> as the designated experts for RFC 9575 (DRIP Entity Tag (DET) Authentication Formats and Protocols for Broadcast Remote Identification (RID)) . 6.3 [IANA #1367528] Designated experts for RFC 9606, "DNS Resolver Information" (Éric Vyncke) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Tirumal Reddy <kondtir@gmail.com>, Mohamed Boucadair <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>, and Ben Schwartz <bemasc@meta.com> as the designated experts for RFC 9606, "DNS Resolver Information." 6.4 Two new expert reviewers for JMAP registries (IANA) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved adding Joris Baum <joris@audriga.com> and Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt@gulbrandsen.priv.no> as additional expert reviewers for the JMAP registries. 6.5 NomCom Updates (Orie Steele) The management issue was discussed. 6.6 Col Disclosure (Erik Kline) The management issue was discussed. Erik Kline reported that Rick Taylor, DTN co-chair, has joined Aalyria, which is the company that he works for. Erik will work with the other DTN co-chair and Internet Area Director to ensure that he is not the responsible Area Director for any documents shepherded by someone who works at the same company that he does. 6.7 [IANA #1369452] Designated experts for RFC 9595 (YANG Schema Item iDentifier (YANG SID)) (IANA) The management issue was discussed. An action item was assigned to Francesca Palombini prior to the start of the teleconference. 6.8 [IANA #1369457] Designated experts for RFC 9580 (OpenPGP) (IANA) The management issue was discussed. An action item was assigned to Paul Wouters prior to the start of the teleconference. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.