Minutes interim-2024-iesg-20: Thu 14:00
minutes-interim-2024-iesg-20-202410031400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 3, 2024 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Deb Cooley (DHS CISA) / Security Area
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area
Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Orie Steele (Transmute) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area
Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area


REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison


GUEST
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Colin Perkins (University of Glasgow) / IRTF Chair


OBSERVERS
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Mike Jones
Laura Nugent
Greg Wood


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the September 19, 2024 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the September 19, 2024 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.


1.2 Documents Approved since the September 19, 2024 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

  o draft-ietf-httpapi-deprecation-header-09  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-dtn-ipn-update-14  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-daley-gendispatch-venue-requirements-03  (Best Current Practice)
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-unprompted-auth-12  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-lamps-rfc8708bis-03  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-33  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-lamps-cms-cek-hkdf-sha256-05  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-anima-brski-ae-13  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-tcpo-v6eh-18  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-fixes-12  (Proposed Standard)

 
1.2.2 Document Actions

  o draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases-15  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-20  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-06  (Informational)


1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE: 

  o Francesca Palombini to find designated experts for  RFC 9595 (YANG 
    Schema Item iDentifier (YANG SID)) [IANA #1369452].
  o Orie Steele to find designated experts for  RFC 9581 (CBOR) 
    [IANA #1372387] 
  o Paul Wouters to find designated experts for RFC 9594 (Key 
    Provisioning for Group Communication Using Authentication and 
    Authorization for Constrained Environments (ACE)) [IANA #1374729].
  o Paul Wouters to write a proposal for handling IANA review
    mailing lists.  
  o Murray Kucherawy to draft an IESG statement on use of Internet-Drafts 
    to meet "specification required" in IANA registries.
  o Roman Danyliw to reach out Systers about the value of writing 
    recommendation letters to employers.


IN PROGRESS: 

  o Deb Cooley to find designated experts for draft-ietf-gnap-core-
    protocol (GNAP Grant Request Parameters) [IANA #1373603].
  o Orie Steele, Francesca Palombini, Murray Kucherawy, Mahesh Jethanandani, 
    Warren Kumari to write draft of IESG statement addressing issue of 
    credit in documents & the importance of capturing and addressing all 
    comments as a necessary part of the consensus process, mostly 
    pointing at existing advice.
  o Murray Kucherawy and Éric Vyncke to create a draft IESG statement 
    about using 2119 language.


NEW: 

  o Zahed Sarker to find designated experts for RFC 9653  (Zero 
    Checksum for the Stream Control Transmission Protocol) [IANA #1378063]. 


2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-rats-uccs-10  - IETF stream
   A CBOR Tag for Unprotected CWT Claims Sets (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Francesca Palombini, Orie Steele, and Paul Wouters.*


 o draft-ietf-oauth-resource-metadata-11  - IETF stream
   OAuth 2.0 Protected Resource Metadata (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Deb Cooley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Murray Kucherawy.*


 o draft-ietf-6man-pio-pflag-10  - IETF stream
   Signaling DHCPv6 Prefix per Client Availability to Hosts (Proposed
   Standard)
   Token: Erik Kline

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action
Announcement once Erik Kline confirms that the announcement is ready to be
sent.


 o draft-ietf-grow-bmp-peer-up-05  - IETF stream
   BMP Peer Up Message Namespace (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Warren Kumari

John Scudder formally recused himself from the discussion. 
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.


 o draft-ietf-gnap-resource-servers-09  - IETF stream
   Grant Negotiation and Authorization Protocol Resource Server
   Connections (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Deb Cooley

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be
completed by Deb Cooley. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement.


 o draft-ietf-sidrops-rrdp-same-origin-04  - IETF stream
   Same-Origin Policy for the RPKI Repository Delta Protocol (RRDP)
   (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Warren Kumari

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.


2.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

 NONE

2.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-pim-mofrr-tilfa-06  - IETF stream
   Multicast-only Fast Reroute Based on Topology Independent Loop-free
   Alternate Fast Reroute (Informational)
   Token: Gunter Van de Velde

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw and Éric Vyncke.*


3.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

 NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 NONE

3.4.2 Returning items

 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 o Standard Communication with Network Elements (scone)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the text of the charter to be provided by Zahed Sarker. The Secretariat will
send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to
new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference after the conclusion of external review.


4.1.2 Proposed for approval

 o Getting Ready for Energy-Efficient Networking (green)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
a new mailing list and final checks to the text of the charter 
to be provided by Mahesh Jethanandani. The Secretariat will send a WG
Action announcement.


 o MODeration PrOceDures (modpod)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
the addition of chairs to be provided by Roman Danyliw. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.


4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

 NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval

 NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 IETF 121 Agenda Conflict Resolution (Liz & IESG)

The management issue was discussed. 


6.2 [IANA #1376075] IESG approval for application/toml (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. This management issue will be 
placed on the next telechat agenda for further discussion.


6.3 [IANA #1375267] IESG approval for protocol number (homa) (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. This management issue will be 
placed on the next telechat agenda for further discussion.


6.4 [IANA #1372387] Designated experts for RFC 9581  (Orie Steele)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Henk Birkholz 
<henk.birkholz@ietf.contact> and Esko Dijk <esko.dijk@iotconsultancy.nl> as 
the designated experts for RFC 9581. 


6.5 [IANA #1374729] Designated experts for RFC 9594 (Key Provisioning for 
Group Communication Using Authentication and Authorization for Constrained 
Environments (ACE)) (Paul Wouters)

Francesca Palombini recused herself from the discussion. 
The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Francesca Palombini 
<francesca.palombini@ericsson.com>, Marco Tiloca <marco.tiloca@ri.se>, and 
Rikard Höglund <rikard.hoglund@ri.se> as the designated experts for RFC 9594.


6.6 [IANA #1378063] Designated experts for RFC 9653 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item was assigned to Zahed Sarker.


6.7 [IANA #1373645] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-safi (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-idr-sr-policy-safi.


6.8 [IANA #1369452] Designated experts for RFC 9595 (YANG Schema Item 
iDentifier (YANG SID)) (Francesca Palombini)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Michel Veillette 
<michel.veillette@trilliant.com>, Alexander Pelov  
<alexander.pelov@imt-atlantique.fr>, and Laurent Toutain 
<laurent.toutain@imt-atlantique.fr> as the designated experts for RFC 9595.


6.9 Approve telechat dates between 121 and 122 (Secretariat)

The management issue was discussed. A telechat schedule was approved.


6.10 [IANA #1373649] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-profile (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-profile.
 

6.11 Additional Designated Expert for JOSE Registries (Paul Wouters)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Mike Jones 
<michael_b_jones@hotmail.com> as an additional designated expert for the JOSE 
registries.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.