Minutes interim-2024-iesg-22: Thu 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 24, 2024 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Liz Flynn, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Deb Cooley (DHS CISA) / Security Area
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Jim Guichard (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Mahesh Jethanandani (Arrcus) / Operations and Management Area
Erik Kline (Aalyria Technologies) / Internet Area
Murray Kucherawy (Meta) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Web and Internet Transport Area
Tommy Pauly (Apple) / IAB Chair
David Schinazi (Google) / IAB Liaison
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Orie Steele (Transmute) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Sabrina Tanamal (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Éric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Paul Wouters (Aiven) /  Security Area


REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Nokia) / Web and Internet Transport Area
Gunter Van de Velde (Nokia) / Routing Area


OBSERVERS
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Robert Sparks
Greg Wood


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

No meeting minutes were approved this week.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 17, 2024 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions

   o draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sr-17  (Proposed Standard)
   o draft-ietf-ace-revoked-token-notification-09  (Proposed Standard)
   o draft-ietf-gnap-resource-servers-09  (Proposed Standard)
   o draft-ietf-sidrops-rrdp-desynchronization-04  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions

   o draft-ietf-radext-radiusv11-11  (Experimental)


1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:

   o Warren Kumari to find designated experts for for RFC 9660 (The DNS
      Zone Version (ZONEVERSION) Option) [IANA #1385320].


IN PROGRESS:

   o Zahed Sarker to find designated experts for RFC 9653  (Zero
      Checksum for the Stream Control Transmission Protocol) [IANA #1378063].

  o Orie Steele, Francesca Palombini, Murray Kucherawy, Mahesh Jethanandani, 
     Warren Kumari to write draft of IESG statement addressing issue of 
     credit in documents & the importance of capturing and addressing all 
     comments as a necessary part of the consensus process, mostly 
     pointing at existing advice.

  o Murray Kucherawy and Eric Vyncke to create a draft IESG statement 
     about using 2119 language.


NEW:

  o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 9559 (Matroska
     Media Container Format Specification) [IANA #1385324].

  o Roman Danyliw to work on adding a checkbox to the meeting 
     registration system asking people to identify they are willing to 
     serve as WG chair.


2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items

 o draft-ietf-rats-eat-media-type-11  - IETF stream
   EAT Media Types (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Deb Cooley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Francesca Palombini.*


 o draft-ietf-ippm-encrypted-pdmv2-09  - IETF stream
   IPv6 Performance and Diagnostic Metrics Version 2 (PDMv2)
   Destination Option (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Warren Kumari

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Deb Cooley, Roman Danyliw, Erik Kline, Murray Kucherawy, 
John Scudder, Orie Steele, Eric Vyncke, and Paul Wouters.*


2.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items

 NONE

2.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items

 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items

 NONE

3.1.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items

 NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items

 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items

 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

 o conflict-review-irtf-cfrg-aead-properties-00
   IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-cfrg-aead-properties
     draft-irtf-cfrg-aead-properties-09
     Properties of AEAD Algorithms (IRTF: Informational)
   Token: Deb Cooley

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes a conflict review response prepared by Deb Cooley.


3.4.2 Returning items

 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

 NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

 NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review

 o Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (bfd)

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending
the addition of milestones and edits to the text of the charter to be 
provided by John Scudder. The Secretariat will send a WG Action 
announcement.


4.2.2 Proposed for approval

 NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1375267] IESG approval for protocol number (homa) (IANA)

The management item was discussed. The IESG approved the request 
to register the Homa protocol in the "Assigned Internet Protocol Numbers" registry.


6.2 Approval of IESG Statement on Use of BCP 14 Key Words (Murray Kucherawy)

The management item was discussed.


6.3 IESG Statement Addressing Comments and Crediting 
      Contributions (Orie, Francesca, Murray, Mahesh, and Warren)

The management item was discussed.


6.4 Confirm IANA email re: IESG-related early allocation process 
      questions (Paul Wouters)

The management item was discussed.


6.5 [IANA #1385320] Designated experts for RFC 9660 (The DNS Zone Version   
      (ZONEVERSION) Option) (IANA)

The management item was discussed. The IESG approved Hugo 
Salgado <hsalgado@nic.cl>, Mauricio Vergara Ereche 
<mvergara@digitalocean.com>, and Duane Wessels 
<dwessels@verisign.com> as the designated experts for RFC 9660.


6.6 [IANA #1385324] Designated experts for RFC 9559 (Matroska Media 
      Container Format Specification) (IANA)

The management item was discussed.


6.7 Markdown as a submission format (John Scudder)

The management item was discussed. The IESG strongly wants the IETF 
to move to having some markdown as a primary submission format. 


6.8 Registration changes (Liz)

The management item was discussed.


6.9 IETF 121 Prep (Roman Danyliw)

The management item was discussed.


7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)