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Date and time 2026-02-25 20:00
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IETF/IEEE 802 Coordination Meeting, 2026-02-25

1. Welcome, roll call, agenda bashing

Present

Andy Newton
Ann Krieger
Cindy Morgan
Deb Cooley
Donald Eastlake
Éric Vyncke
Glenn Parsons
James Gilb
János Farkas
Jason Potterf
Paul Wouters
Peter Yee
Robert Stacey
Russ Housley
Warren Kumari

Regrets:

Ketan Talaulikar

2. Action item updates

  • NONE

3. IETF New Work summary and other updates

https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/bofs/

Operationalizing Network & SErvice abstractioNs (ONSEN) - Operations and Management Area

The ONSEN BoF will build on the IAB NEMOPS workshop and establish
the operators' use of abstractions, as well as the challenges faced, to
enable operators to manage and automate service abstractions and do so
in a consistent manner.

The goal of this BoF is to determine whether there is interest in
forming a working group focused on operationalising service and network
abstractions.

Russ Housley noted that this may be of interest to 802.

Coordinating Agent To Agent List of efforts (CATALIST) - Applications and Real-Time Area

The CATALIST BoF is a non-WG-forming effort to coordinate among the
various initiatives to develop IETF work on AI agent-to-agent
communications. This BoF provides an opportunity to:

  • Summarize the ecosystem, including work occurring outside the IETF
    at W3C, 3GPP, and the Linux Foundation
  • Summarize work occurring in IETF side meetings and progressing on
    mailing lists.
  • Identify what work could be pursued in the IETF.
  • Identify and share existing IETF working groups that are addressing
    use cases related to agent communication.

4. 802 New Work summary and other updates

https://ieee802.org/PARs.shtml

  • NONE

Robert Stacy reported on actvities in 802.11 via email:

Other groups:

  • P802.11REVmf (Maintenance) currently in WG ballot (1st recirc)
  • P802.11bn (Wi-Fi 8) in comment resolution for failed initial WG
    ballot on D1.0. Ballot on D2.0 expected May 2026.
  • P802.11bp (Ambient Power Communications) working on initial draft.
    Expected May 2026.
  • P802.11bq (Integrated mmWave) 60 GHz support more aligned with
    mainstream. Reviewing technical proposals.
  • P802.11br (Enhanced Light Communications) working on initial
    draft.

5. Review current coordination items

Potential Areas for IETF/IEEE802 Coordination, v49

Item 25. Layer 2/Layer 3 Interaction for Time-Sensitive Traffic

Janos Farkas provided updates via email prior to the call:

IETF DetNet:

The following documents are being published:

Ongoing work:

IEEE 802.1 TSN:

recently published:

recently approved:

conditionally approved (condition: no technical changes in the draft
to be submitted for IEC FDIS ballot):

(an overview is on page 2 in:
https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2025/admin-farkas-some-tsn-developments-1125-v00.pdf)

RevCom motion coming at the March Plenary:

  • P802.1ASds – Timing and Synchronization for Time-Sensitive
    Applications - Amendment: Support for the IEEE Std 802.3 Clause 4
    Media Access Control (MAC) operating in half-duplex
    (https://1.ieee802.org/tsn/802-1asds/) (the project had clean SA
    ballot)

at initial SA ballot:

at Task Group ballot:

with the Editor:

New PARs:

Item 27. Development of YANG models in the IEEE 802

Glenn Parsons will follow up with Scott Mansfield and Mahesh
Jethanandani on common string formats.

Item 33. Capability Discovery

Russ Housley replied that the LSVR WG has agreed to go in a direction
that does not create a conflict with LLDP, but that the related
Internet-Draft has not yet been posted.

Item 36. Post Quantum Cryptography (PQC)

Paul Wouters said that if IEEE 802.11bt wants pure ML-KEM, it would be
helpful if they could issue a liaison statement saying that.

Item 37. Jumbo Ethernet Frames

Jason Potterf reported that this was discussed in 802.1 and 802.3. There
is agreement that Jumbo Ethernet Frames should be standardized, but no
one has agreed to champion it yet. The current action item is to scope
out the requirements for Jumbo Ethernet Frames.

Item 38. L4S and Wi-Fi

Russ Housley will ask Gorry Fairhurst and Juan Carlos Zuniga to provide
an update.

Potential Future Item: AI Above the MAC Layer

Robert Stacy noted that there is interest from 802 in standardizing
higher-layer interfaces for AI, and asked if IETF is doing any work in
this area.

Andy Newton replied that the answer is currently unclear; the CATALIST
BOF was scoped down to agent-to-agent work, but there will be a number
of unofficial side meetings on AI-related topics at IETF 125.

Russ Housley suggested that the group check in on this topic again at
their next meeting.

6. Future meeting plans

7. Adjourn