Telechat Review of draft-ietf-httpbis-p1-messaging-25
review-ietf-httpbis-p1-messaging-25-genart-telechat-shirazipour-2013-12-13-00

I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART,
please see the FAQ at

http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq

  .



Please resolve any Last Call comments you may receive.







Document: draft-ietf-httpbis-p1-messaging-25

Reviewer: Meral Shirazipour

Review Date: 2013-11-18/2013-12-02

IETF LC End Date: End of November (special deadline)

IESG Telechat date: 2013-12-19







Summary:

This draft is almost ready to be published as Proposed Standard but I have some
comments.





Major issues:

none





Minor issues:

Part 1 of:

**draft-ietf-httpbis-p1-messaging (82 pages)

draft-ietf-httpbis-p2-semantics (98 pages)

*draft-ietf-httpbis-p4-conditional (27 pages)

draft-ietf-httpbis-p5-range (24 pages)

*draft-ietf-httpbis-p6-cache (41 pages)

draft-ietf-httpbis-p7-auth (18 pages)

draft-ietf-httpbis-method-registrations (7 pages)

draft-ietf-httpbis-authscheme-registrations (5 pages)



** this review

* also reviewed my me (some of comments/suggestions below may apply to all
reviews)



-General comment 1, I am not very keen with the idea of splitting the http
standard in so many RFCs.

It is hard to follow and the protocol is not complex enough to justify these
lengthy documents.

I would have rather see 1 concise standard RFC and few Extension RFCs,
Informational or BCP RFCs.

RFC2616 was ~176 pages, looking at Appendix B of the draft for changes since
RFC2616, makes me wonder why so much extra text was required (~300 pages).

Constructive comment:

                -Perhaps in part 1 give a suggestion on how to use/read these
                documents (RFCs). Could any of them be skipped at first for a
                simple implementation?

                I think it is worthwhile spending minimum 2-3 pages to
                summarize the various documents (Parts) and suggest how to use
                them best.

                -Most people use www on a daily basis, some of the concepts
                could be better explained with every day experienced examples
                rather than abstract explanation.



-General comment 2, throughout the text there is mention of security risks yet
this is not a complete list for security issues in http.

It would be beneficial to also have a separate document for all security risks
to be considered by server and client implementors.





Nits/editorial comments:

-[Page 5] in the intro, right after it says "This HTTP/1.1 specification
obsoletes and moves to historic status RFC 2616....", it would

help to add a reference to Appendix B and mention this is where the differences
with RFC2616 is listed.

-

[Page 5,6], Section 1, this statement is not clear. Are we talking about one
HTTP transaction changing info on the server/data base?

"

If the communication is considered in isolation, then successful actions

   ought to be reflected in corresponding changes to the observable

   interface provided by servers.  However, since multiple clients might

   act in parallel and perhaps at cross-purposes, we cannot require that

   such changes be observable beyond the scope of a single response.



   This document describes the architectural elements that are used or

   referred to in HTTP, defines the "http" and "https" URI schemes,

   describes overall network operation and connection management, and

   defines HTTP message framing and forwarding requirements.  Our goal

   is to define all of the mechanisms necessary for HTTP message

   handling that are independent of message semantics, thereby defining

   the complete set of requirements for message parsers and message-

   forwarding intermediaries.

"



-[Page 11], Section 2.3, "Instead, an interception proxy filters or redirects
outgoing TCP port 80 packets (and occasionally other common port traffic)."



Not sure if "occasionally other common port traffic" means port 443?

If not, for sake of completeness, we could say : "redirects outgoing TCP ports
80 and 443 packets".





-[Page 12], Section 2.5 not clear what is meant by (social) requirements. An
example may clarify:

"Additional (social) requirements are placed on implementations,

   resource owners, and protocol element registrations when they apply

   beyond the scope of a single communication.

"





-[Page 13], not a comment for this draft but in general, has the WG considered
a BCP for general error handling, in line with the example given after this
sentence:

"

HTTP does not define

   specific error handling mechanisms except when they have a direct

   impact on security, since different applications of the protocol

   require different error handling strategies.

"



-[Page 15], if the statement below is a well-known and often happening scenario
it would help to give at least

one example of how a client can deduce that by going to a lower version of HTTP
the problem(?) will be fixed.

(Note that 2 paragraphs below give examples for the server case.)

"

A client MAY send a lower request version if it is known that the

   server incorrectly implements the HTTP specification, but only after

   the client has attempted at least one normal request and determined

   from the response status code or header fields (e.g., Server) that

   the server improperly handles higher request versions.

"



-[Page 15],can the server send this error message to refuse service based on
e.g. connection identification or other reasons? Then how can the client

address the problem if in reality it was not related to the version of HTTP?

"

A server can send a 505

   (HTTP Version Not Supported) response if it wishes, for any reason,

   to refuse service of the client's major protocol version.

"



-[Page 16], would it be ok to use MAY? If so it would be clearer to use MAY. :
"A recipient MAY..."

"

A recipient can assume that a

   message with a higher minor version, when sent to a recipient that

   has not yet indicated support for that higher version, is

   sufficiently backwards-compatible to be safely processed by any

   implementation of the same major version.

"



-[Page 17], Section 2.7.1 first line:   "...for the purpose of minting
identifiers".

suggestion: if another word than "minting" (e.g. generating, creating), could
be used it would be easier to read that section.

(also used in section 2.7.2)



-[Page 17], "port 80 is assumed", should it be "SHOULD BE" or "MUST BE" ?

"If the port subcomponent is empty or not given, then TCP port

   80 is assumed (the default reserved port for WWW services).

"



-[Page 17], "non-interim" , not clear how it can be determines as non-interim
(no other message in between? or under a certain peruiod of time?)

Also the term "authoritative" is introduced and should be defined in this
context.

"

If the server responds to that request with a non-interim

   HTTP response message, as described in Section 6 of [Part2], then

   that response is considered an authoritative answer to the client's

   request.

"



-[Page 21], Should it be section 5.3?

"

Recipients typically parse the request-line into its component parts

   by splitting on whitespace (see Section 3.5), ...

"



-[Page 21], just verifying is it three or tree?

"

..., since no whitespace is allowed in the three components.

"



-[Page 52], refers to an obsoleted RFC. Maybe repeating the explanation in this
draft would be a better idea.

"

A proxy server MUST NOT maintain a persistent connection with an

   HTTP/1.0 client (see Section 19.7.1 of [RFC2068] for information and

   discussion of the problems with the Keep-Alive header field

   implemented by many HTTP/1.0 clients).

"



-[Page 54], suggestion for clarity: "through the same server"--->"through the
same proxy server"

"

Proxy servers might make

   this a higher value since it is likely that the client will be making

   more connections through the same server.



"



- [Page 65], Security section, is it exhaustive? Would it be better to have a
separate draft to discuss all security issues related to HTTP?

(also referring to comments from Kathleen Moriarty on other parts of this bis)
[See comment 2 in "minor issues" section above]







Best Regards,

Meral

---

Meral Shirazipour

Ericsson

Research

www.ericsson.com