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Early Review of draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set-16
review-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set-16-rtgdir-early-vainshtein-2024-12-03-00

Request Review of draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set
Requested revision No specific revision (document currently at 18)
Type Early Review
Team Routing Area Directorate (rtgdir)
Deadline 2024-12-21
Requested 2024-11-11
Requested by Susan Hares
Authors Warren "Ace" Kumari , Kotikalapudi Sriram , Lilia Hannachi , Jeffrey Haas
I-D last updated 2024-12-03
Completed reviews Rtgdir Early review of -16 by Sasha Vainshtein (diff)
Secdir Early review of -16 by Derek Atkins (diff)
Opsdir Early review of -16 by Ron Bonica (diff)
Genart Last Call review of -17 by Ines Robles (diff)
Comments
RTG-DIR - should consider issues in BGP State Machine + BGP for AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET AS_PATH segment types
OPS-DIR - should consider Operational issues of deprecating BGP AS-SETs and BGP AS-Conf

SEC-DIR - Should provide feedback on whether the removal of  AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET AS_PATH segment types improves the security of BGP
Assignment Reviewer Sasha Vainshtein
State Completed
Request Early review on draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set by Routing Area Directorate Assigned
Posted at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-dir/0qKT7DPbGyDf6M4LO8Jlc-RhEZs
Reviewed revision 16 (document currently at 18)
Result Ready
Completed 2024-12-03
review-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set-16-rtgdir-early-vainshtein-2024-12-03-00
Hello,
I have been selected to do a routing directorate "early" review of this draft:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set-16.

The routing directorate will, on request from the working group chair, perform
an "early" review of a draft before it is submitted for publication to the
IESG. The early review can be performed at any time during the draft's lifetime
as a working group document. The purpose of the early review depends on the
stage that the document has reached.

While the WG LC for this draft has been done, RtgDir review has not been
requested at that time. Therefore, the purpose of this review (as clarified by
Susan Hares who is the IDR WG shepherd  for this draft) is to determine whether
the document is ready to be published. Please consider my comments along with
the other working group last call comments.

For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see
https://wiki.ietf.org/en/group/rtg/RtgDir.

Document:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-idr-deprecate-as-set-confed-set-16.
Reviewer: Alexander ("Sasha") Vainshtein Review Date: 03-Dec-24 Intended
Status: Standards Track

Summary: No issues found. This document is ready to proceed to the IESG.

Comments:
This document brings to a long due conclusion the process that has started 14
years ago and, so far, resulted in publication of RFC
6472<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc6472/>  (a.k.a. BCP 172) when
non-usage of AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET path segment types has been defined as
Best Current Practice.

With approval of this document, usage of AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET path segment
types would  become strictly prohibited:

  *   BGP Update messages containing such paths segments will be treated as
  erroneous *   "Treat-as-withdraw" approach will be applied to these Update
  messages.

Benefits of the proposed change include:

  *   Simplification of BGP design and implementation
  *   Disambiguation of the origin AS of the route and simplification of
  various BGP security mechanisms.

Section 4 of the draft briefly describes the problems usage of AS_SET and
AS_CONFED_SET path segment types creates for different BGP security mechanisms.

Section 5 of the draft provides detailed analysis of impact of deprecation of
AS_SET and AS_CONFED_SET path segment types on BGP aggregation mechanisms.

To the nest of my understanding, Section 6 of the draft addresses all specific
operational issues pertaining to these mechanisms.

Appendix C clarifies that the next hop of an aggregated route MUST be the "null
destination".

The metadata for this draft correctly reflects its impact on other RFCs.

I have not checked the draft for nits.

Hopefully, these notes will be useful.
Regards,
Sasha

Regards,
Sasha

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