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Last Call Review of draft-ietf-raw-technologies-10
review-ietf-raw-technologies-10-opsdir-lc-boucadair-2024-09-10-00

Request Review of draft-ietf-raw-technologies
Requested revision No specific revision (document currently at 17)
Type IETF Last Call Review
Team Ops Directorate (opsdir)
Deadline 2024-09-18
Requested 2024-09-04
Authors Pascal Thubert , Dave Cavalcanti , Xavier Vilajosana , Corinna Schmitt , János Farkas
I-D last updated 2026-02-20 (Latest revision 2025-04-15)
Completed reviews Intdir Telechat review of -15 by Ron Bonica (diff)
Rtgdir Early review of -06 by Victoria Pritchard (diff)
Secdir IETF Last Call review of -10 by Shivan Kaul Sahib (diff)
Artart IETF Last Call review of -10 by Jiankang Yao (diff)
Genart IETF Last Call review of -10 by Mallory Knodel (diff)
Secdir Telechat review of -15 by Donald E. Eastlake 3rd (diff)
Opsdir IETF Last Call review of -10 by Mohamed Boucadair (diff)
Opsdir Telechat review of -13 by Mohamed Boucadair (diff)
Secdir Telechat review of -14 by Donald E. Eastlake 3rd (diff)
Opsdir Telechat review of -14 by Mohamed Boucadair (diff)
Assignment Reviewer Mohamed Boucadair
State Completed
Request IETF Last Call review on draft-ietf-raw-technologies by Ops Directorate Assigned
Posted at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ops-dir/V0J1nUd42EDdydLo-r-w_tULysE
Reviewed revision 10 (document currently at 17)
Result Has issues
Completed 2024-09-10
review-ietf-raw-technologies-10-opsdir-lc-boucadair-2024-09-10-00
Hi authors,

Many thanks for the effort put into this document along several years.

I reviewed the document from an ops-dir review, but I also have more general
comments:

# OPS

Although mentioned too late in the document (security section), the document
says explicitly that it does not include any ops considerations. It is fair to
set that scope given the rich content of the document and main objective to
describe technologies themselves. However, such mention should be included
early in the document.

There are ops considerations that are applicable to scheduling resources in
general, path computation, or synchronization matters. Nevertheless, given that
the objectives is not to provide recommendations about the various
technologies, I would not ask the authors to add NEW text with these
considerations for each technology. That would be over-specifying here.
Instead, the authors may include relevant pointer are readily available. This
is not even needed with the suggested note about ops considerations are not in
scope.

The document includes an OAM section for one specific technology, but that
section is too brief and does include up-to-date specific pointers. Cited
documents are generic or expired since a while.

# Generic

## Target audience/consumer of this material

I know that it is frustrating to receive this kind of comments after many years
of effort maintaining this doc, but I sincerely think that the document lacks
some words to explain the rationale of collecting this material and how this is
intended to be used in the IETF. This clarification is specifically needed as
some of the text needs some refresh (see next point). Including such text will
also help understanding the value of publishing this as an RFC (which I suspect
this might be questioned by some).

## Stale/Need to refresh

The text includes stale text (e.g., pointer to specs that expired several years
ago, text that won't age well, text that need to be refreshed to reflect
progress (or lack of progress in cited SDOs). I tagged some off those in my
review, but I can't claim that I tagged all of them.

The text can be cleaned in several places to avoid what can be seen as
speculating or over-selling some efforts.

## Liaise with material owners

The material included in various sections is owned by other SDOs. Unless this
is already done, it would be reasonable to send LSes to at least 3GPP/IEEE to
review relevant sections.

# Detailed review

A more detailed review can be found using the following links:

* pdf:
https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master/2024/draft-ietf-raw-technologies-10-rev%20Med.pdf
* doc:
https://github.com/boucadair/IETF-Drafts-Reviews/blob/master/2024/draft-ietf-raw-technologies-10-rev%20Med.doc

Feel free to grab whatever you think useful for the document.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Med