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Early Review of draft-ietf-teas-pcecc-use-cases-11

Request Review of draft-ietf-teas-pcecc-use-cases
Requested revision No specific revision (document currently at 13)
Type Early Review
Team Routing Area Directorate (rtgdir)
Deadline 2022-11-07
Requested 2022-10-16
Requested by Vishnu Pavan Beeram
Authors Zhenbin Li , Dhruv Dhody , Quintin Zhao , Zekung Ke, Boris Khasanov
Draft last updated 2022-11-07
Completed reviews Rtgdir Early review of -11 by Mach Chen (diff)
As per the guidance given by Routing Area ADs, we now require early directorate reviews before documents enter the publication queue.
Assignment Reviewer Mach Chen
State Completed
Review review-ietf-teas-pcecc-use-cases-11-rtgdir-early-chen-2022-11-07
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Reviewed revision 11 (document currently at 13)
Result Has Nits
Completed 2022-11-07

I have been selected to do a routing directorate “early” review of this draft.

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Document: draft-ietf-teas-pcecc-use-cases-11
Reviewer: Mach Chen
Review Date: 24 October 2022
Intended Status: Informational

This document is basically ready for publication, but has nits that should be
considered prior to being submitted to the IESG.

Comments and Questions
1. The grammars throughout make the document hard to read in some places,
please check through and correct, maybe the authors can ask a native speaker
review to improve the document.

2. Section 1, last paragraph
“This document describes the various other usecases for the PCECC
The “other” makes me think that there are PCECC usecases defined in other
documents, if it's true, it's better to give explicit references on them.
Otherwise, remove the "other" here.

3. Section 2, Terminology,
" IGP:  Interior Gateway Protocol.  Either of the two routing
   protocols, Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) [RFC2328][RFC5340] or
   Intermediate System to Intermediate System (IS-IS) [RFC1195]."

IGP includes more OSPF and ISIS. I'd suggest to remove " Either of the two
   protocols, Open Shortest Path First (OSPF) [RFC2328][RFC5340] or
   Intermediate System to Intermediate System (IS-IS) [RFC1195]."

4. Section 3 Application Scenarios,
This section is called "Application Scenarios", and there is also a section:
"Section 3.  Applicability" in RFC8283. What's the relationship between this
draft and RFC8283?

RFC8283, Section 3 Applicability, says:
"This section gives a very high-level introduction to the
   applicability of a PCE-based centralized controller.  There is no
   attempt to explain each use case in detail,..."
Thus, I guess the purpose of this document is to define detailed use cases for
PCECC? If so, some text needed to clarify this.

5. Section 3,
The titles of section 3 and its sub-sections are a bit verbose and repetitive,
it's better to simplify them. For example, change the title of section to "Use
Cases", change the title of section 3.1 "Label Management", no need to repeat
"Use Cases of PCECC for" for each use case.

6. Section 3, last two paragraphs;
"Section 3.1 describe the general case of PCECC being in charge of
   managing MPLS label space."
What's so special to mention "managing MPLS label space" but not mention other
use cases?

"In the following sections, several other use cases are described,
   showcasing scenarios that benefit from the deployment of PCECC."
Here, it mentions "other" again.

I'd suggest to remove the last two paragraphs, and instead adding text like
"The sub-sections will describe the detailed use cases of above applicability;
besides, more use cases will be introduced as well."

7. Section 3.2.4,
Most of text of this section is used for introducing what's is SR policy, IMHO,
this may not be necessary, it's better that the text focuses on the use case
itself. This is not just an single issue for this section, instead, it's a
common issue for all use case sections. I'd suggest that the authors can review
the whole document to make a clean-up.

Section 3.3,
"... R8 with the path: {R1, link1,
      1001}, {1001, R2, link3, 2003], {2003, R4, link10, 4010}, {4010,
      R3, link8, 3008}, {3008, R8}."
It's better to add some text to describe what's the meaning of "{R1, link1,
1001}", "{1001, R2, link3, 2003]"...

Section 3.3.1,
Abbreviations should be expanded before using, for example, AGG, it suggest the
authors to check whole document to make sure that all unwell-known
abbreviations/terms are expanded before using.

Section 3.4.1,
Step 2: After R2 receives the packet with label 6000, it will
      Forward it to R4 by swapping label to 9001 and by swapping label
      of 9002 towards R5.

Step 2: After R2 receives the packet with label 6000, it will
      forward it to R4 by swapping label to 9001, and at the same time,
      it will replicate the packet and swap label to 9002 and forward to R5.

Similar issue with step 2-5, need to check grammars of the text and correct

1. Section2, Terminology,
s/...Client: As.../...Client. As...
s/ ...Element: As.../ ...Element. As...
s/...controller: Extension/ ...controller. Extension...

2. Section 3.1,
s/may taker/may take
s/[RFC9050] describe a mode where LSPs are.../ [RFC9050] describes a mode where
an LSP is...

3.Section 3.2.1
s/label map/label mapping

4. Section 3.2.2
s/In this mode of the solution.../In this use case...
s/The path would be the based.../The path would be based...

5. Section,
s/ the back LSP/the backup LSP

Above just lists some of the nits, there should be more, mainly grammar
related, please check and correct.

Best regards,