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Calling Line Identification for Voice Mail Messages
RFC 3939

Yes

(Ned Freed)
(Scott Hollenbeck)

No Objection

(Alex Zinin)
(Bert Wijnen)
(David Kessens)
(Jon Peterson)
(Margaret Cullen)
(Steven Bellovin)
(Thomas Narten)

No Record


Note: This ballot was opened for revision 09 and is now closed.

Ned Freed Former IESG member
Yes
Yes () Unknown

                            
Scott Hollenbeck Former IESG member
Yes
Yes () Unknown

                            
Alex Zinin Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Bert Wijnen Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Bill Fenner Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (2004-04-02) Unknown
5.3 Examples
   
...
       Caller-ID: 6137684087
...
       Caller-ID: 6139416900

Are these supposed to be representing internal calls?  They look awfully like Ontario phone numbers but they are not in the format specified in 3.2 (no CC).
David Kessens Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Harald Alvestrand Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (2004-04-01) Unknown
Reviewed by John Loughney, Gen-ART.
Caller-ID is capitalized inconsistently.
There is no IPR section (but RFC Editor will fix that).
Note on section 4: I don't like using RFC 2047 "any charset", but the purpose of the extension is not making the information readable to all, it's preserving the data that came off the telephone interface. If we accept the purpose, it kind of makes sense - unfortunately.
Jon Peterson Former IESG member
(was Discuss) No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Margaret Cullen Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Russ Housley Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection (2004-03-30) Unknown
  Section 3: s/external cal/external call/
  
  Section 4: Why not accommodate UTF8 now?  I would think that telephone
  systems will start supporting more robust international character
  encoding schemes in the future.

  Shouldn't we ask IANA to add these to the registry established by
  draft-klyne-msghdr-registry?
Steven Bellovin Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Ted Hardie Former IESG member
(was Discuss) No Objection
No Objection (2004-04-02) Unknown
In Section 3.3, numbering plans, the document says this:


  In this baseline case (i.e., analog lines), no numbering plan 
  information is known or implied.  However, in the case that a 
  numbering plan is known, an optional "NumberingPlan" parameter MAY
  be used to indicate the semantic.  Only two semantics are defined _ 
  "local" and "e164".  "local" is the default if no numbering plan 
  semantic is included.  Further, "local" has meaning only within the 
  domain of the voice mail system that stored the message.  "e164" 
  indicates that the number is as described in [E.164]. 
  "x-" may be used to indicate vendor specific dialing plans.

How the "x-" values would actually be used is not at all clear, and
given the failures we've seen with x- in other contexts, I think more
text is needed.  In particular, if we're talking about vendor-specific
formats,instead of numbering plans, we need more details.  If
x-example might have a "+" character because Example's phone
switch presents a number with one, does this allow that?  Or do
we mean x-example2 might reverse the presentation of extension 
and base number from the typical, but they are all still numbers?

The use of phone numbers in 6.2 may present a problem; they may not
now be valid numbers but could be in the future.  In a previous document,
we used a UK range set aside for these examples; could we reuse
that range or an equivalent?
Thomas Narten Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection () Unknown

                            
Allison Mankin Former IESG member
No Record
No Record (2004-04-02) Unknown
I have another concern about the IANA registry for the ietf-token:

The ietf-token for the Caller-ID numbering plan seems
valueless.  It is optional that it ever appear, so it cannot
be counted on for any help in understanding the numbers, or
solving truncation or other problems.  Registration of official
ones is strict, but there are x-tokens which require no
registration.  What's the point of using this token or bothering
with this registry?