Framework for Generalized Multi-Protocol Label Switching (GMPLS)-based Control of Synchronous Digital Hierarchy/Synchronous Optical Networking (SDH/SONET) Networks
RFC 4257
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2012-08-22
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05 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Russ Housley |
2005-12-20
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05 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to RFC Published from RFC Ed Queue by Amy Vezza |
2005-12-20
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05 | Amy Vezza | [Note]: 'RFC 4257' added by Amy Vezza |
2005-12-12
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05 | (System) | RFC published |
2005-05-03
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05 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy Vezza |
2005-04-29
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05 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent |
2005-04-29
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05 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2005-04-29
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05 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2005-04-29
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05 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup by Amy Vezza |
2005-04-28
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05 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Russ Housley has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Russ Housley |
2005-04-21
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05 | Brian Carpenter | [Ballot comment] After discussion with the AD I have cleared Harald's DISCUSS, even though the main point raised by Elwyn Davies, the Gen-Art reviewer, (excessive … [Ballot comment] After discussion with the AD I have cleared Harald's DISCUSS, even though the main point raised by Elwyn Davies, the Gen-Art reviewer, (excessive tutorial, unevenness of detail, whether it really is a framework and failure to highlight conclusions/requirements) has not been fixed. This is a judgement call. However, there is one new review comment that should be fixed editorially. > One additional point which I didn't pick up on in the previous review is a > 'red rag' issue in the second paragraph of 1.1: equating MPLS LSP in > general with circuit. |
2005-04-21
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05 | Brian Carpenter | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Carpenter by Brian Carpenter |
2005-02-23
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05 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2005-02-23
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05 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ccamp-sdhsonet-control-05.txt |
2004-12-17
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05 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to IESG Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from IESG Evaluation by Amy Vezza |
2004-12-17
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05 | (System) | Removed from agenda for telechat - 2004-12-16 |
2004-12-16
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05 | Sam Hartman | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Sam Hartman by Sam Hartman |
2004-12-16
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05 | Russ Housley | [Ballot discuss] The Security Considerations are very weak. Section 1.4.1 says that manual entry errors can be reduced. However, this means that a … [Ballot discuss] The Security Considerations are very weak. Section 1.4.1 says that manual entry errors can be reduced. However, this means that a protocol is running in the customer-edge equipment. What happens if an attacker is able to manipulate this device? In the manually configured case, only the one link is impacted. It seems like the impact will be magnified in the proposed solution. Section 3 says: > > (iv) Information intended only for end systems of the connection. > Some of the payload type information in may fall into this category. > I am baffled. Please explain it. |
2004-12-16
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05 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Russ Housley by Russ Housley |
2004-12-16
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05 | Harald Alvestrand | [Ballot comment] Reviewed by Elwyn Davies, Gen-ART Complete review added to document log. |
2004-12-16
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05 | Harald Alvestrand | [Ballot discuss] Reviewed by Elwyn Davies, Gen-ART, who found the presentation of materials somewhat suboptimal - in particular, he found conclusions and tutorial/background materials so … [Ballot discuss] Reviewed by Elwyn Davies, Gen-ART, who found the presentation of materials somewhat suboptimal - in particular, he found conclusions and tutorial/background materials so thoroughly mixed that it's hard to tell what the document is trying to say. I'd like (at minimum) a response to the review before approving it. |
2004-12-16
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05 | Harald Alvestrand | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Harald Alvestrand by Harald Alvestrand |
2004-12-16
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05 | Harald Alvestrand | Review from Elwyn Davies, Gen-ART: Summary: This document seems to be a useful adjunct to draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-sonet-sdh-08.txt for which it claims to be a 'framework' but … Review from Elwyn Davies, Gen-ART: Summary: This document seems to be a useful adjunct to draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-sonet-sdh-08.txt for which it claims to be a 'framework' but IMO is mistitled. I have some major reservations about the way the information is presented. Suggestions for improvements are given in the body of the review. Additionally there is a great deal of SONET/SDH tutorial material which is somewhat inconsistent in level of detail, and contains some dangling references. The text contains a large number of unexpanded/undefined abbreviations. All in all, the document *will* be a helpful Informational but needs some further work to improve the usefulness of the information. Meta-point: This document was part of the pilot project involving delegating AD review to WG chair(s). It will be interesting to hear Alex's views as to whether he would have flagged any of these issues at an earlier stage. Review: Having read through the document, I have some doubts about the classification of the document as a 'framework': it contains instead a number of different things – a tutorial on the architecture and multiplexing structure of SDH/SONET; requirements and design goals for controlling SDH/SONET networks; and an analysis of how to map the SDH/SONET architecture onto the existing GMPLS framework for the purposes of controlling the SDH/SONET network together with an outline of the necessary protocol extensions. Perhaps 'framework' is the last thing it is! (The concepts, structure and mechanisms, which are what I understand should be in a framework, are provided by GMPLS and not significantly altered by this document). Maybe 'requirements and design goals for mapping SONET/SDH network control onto the GMPLS framework' might be better. I was generally uneasy about the way in which the document was written. Part of this is probably because it is apparently trying to address a number of different goals subsidiary to its central one (para 3, Intro: 'The goal of this work is to highlight how GMPLS could be used to dynamically establish, maintain, and tear down SDH/SONET circuits'), and the pieces were not very well separated. These implicitly include providing tutorial material for SONET/SDH and justifying expected business value of the work. The document contains a large proportion of tutorial material (probably more than 70%) providing the background needed for a non-expert in SONET/SDH to understand the requirements and design goals. I think my main problem with this document is that the decisions and conclusions related to the various goals (perhaps best summarized by para 3 of the Introduction) are embedded in the tutorial material in a way that makes it difficult for an SONET/SDH expert to go straight for them and would make it difficult to check that the GMPLS extension proposals match the analysis here. The document would be much improved by highlighting the discussion outcomes by suitable formatting (e.g., quoted paragraphs with key phrase titles) and providing a proper itemized summary as opposed to the 'academic paper' style assertions that the goals have been met. It would also help to distinguish the points according to the goals they meet and the part of the GMPLS framework affected (protocols, labels, etc)– some of this is tied to the section title but some extra notation would help. Additionally, the tutorial material is somewhat uneven providing (IMO) excessive detail and discussion in some places (e.g., Sect 1.3 – I think the operational processes could be compressed and the important points for this work highlighted - and Sect 4.2 – where the details of the different protection options are maybe not needed for the purposes of this work), but, for example, skimping on the (textual) description of the multiplexing structure in Sect 1.2: Figure 1 is not terribly comprehensible and contains a set of reference points noted at the end of para 5 but NOT explained later. The result is that the description of the multiplexing structure is distributed across the document and clutters up portions where decisions are being documented (such as 4.1). Overall, compressing the tutorial matter and where possible keeping it confined to a single section might clarify the document, and make the decision points more readily visible. In my view it is essential that the key decision points are highlighted both as they are finalized within the body of the text, and possibly by a real summary at the end. The current summary is more appropriate to an academic paper where the author is demonstrating that the points from the intro have been ticked off: for the purposes of this document, a checklist of things to do to protocols and boxes plus open issues would help expert readers and implementers who otherwise have to plough through the whole document to find what was supposed to have been done. On the subject of open issues, it is not clear what is being done about these open issues and whether they ought to be solved before the document is finalized. At a more detailed level: - There are a large number of unexpanded abbreviations, starting right from the beginning with SONET and SDH! - I think the summary of goals in the abstract and the introduction are not well aligned. There are a number of editorial nits relating to formatting: Check the layout of tables 1 and 5. Also para 1 of 1.4.2. Also idnits should be run. In s1.1, the Layer 2 technologies relevant to VPI/VCI and DLCI need to be specified (as well as expanding the acronyms). In s1.2, the term tributary needs to be defined. Last para of s.1.4.1: s/dissemination/disseminate/ If the doc is going to refer to draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-routing-09.txt indicating how the design decisions are implemented then the ref [12] surely has to be normative. I am not sure the ref is a good idea (making a circular dependency). |
2004-12-16
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05 | Bert Wijnen | [Ballot comment] Since this is a lot about SONET/SDH, would it not be good to have the document reviewed by someone from ITU-T as well? |
2004-12-16
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05 | Bert Wijnen | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Undefined, has been recorded for Bert Wijnen by Bert Wijnen |
2004-12-16
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05 | Michelle Cotton | IANA Comments: We understand this document to have NO IANA Actions. |
2004-12-15
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05 | Margaret Cullen | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Margaret Wasserman by Margaret Wasserman |
2004-12-15
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05 | David Kessens | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for David Kessens by David Kessens |
2004-12-14
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05 | Ted Hardie | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Ted Hardie by Ted Hardie |
2004-12-14
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05 | Scott Hollenbeck | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Scott Hollenbeck has been changed to No Objection from Undefined by Scott Hollenbeck |
2004-12-14
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05 | Scott Hollenbeck | [Ballot comment] Missing IANA Considerations. I'm not sure I agree with the statements in the Security Considerations section about the need for GMPLS protocol specifications … [Ballot comment] Missing IANA Considerations. I'm not sure I agree with the statements in the Security Considerations section about the need for GMPLS protocol specifications alone to identify and address security issues specific to protocol. If this document is describing an extension framework, shouldn't it also address the security implications of extensions in general? I'll leave it to Russ or Sam to determine if this merits a discuss or not. |
2004-12-14
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05 | Scott Hollenbeck | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Undefined, has been recorded for Scott Hollenbeck by Scott Hollenbeck |
2004-12-13
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05 | Alex Zinin | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Alex Zinin |
2004-12-13
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05 | Alex Zinin | Ballot has been issued by Alex Zinin |
2004-12-13
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05 | Alex Zinin | Created "Approve" ballot |
2004-12-13
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05 | (System) | Ballot writeup text was added |
2004-12-13
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05 | (System) | Last call text was added |
2004-12-13
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05 | (System) | Ballot approval text was added |
2004-11-30
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05 | Alex Zinin | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2004-12-16 by Alex Zinin |
2004-11-30
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05 | Alex Zinin | State Changes to IESG Evaluation from AD Evaluation by Alex Zinin |
2004-11-30
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05 | Alex Zinin | ready for IESG review |
2004-11-30
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05 | Alex Zinin | State Changes to AD Evaluation from AD Evaluation::External Party by Alex Zinin |
2004-10-01
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04 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ccamp-sdhsonet-control-04.txt |
2004-08-27
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05 | Alex Zinin | State Changes to AD Evaluation::External Party from AD Evaluation::AD Followup by Alex Zinin |
2004-08-27
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05 | Alex Zinin | WG chairs dealing with the draft. Waiting for a GA from them. |
2004-07-15
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05 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2004-07-15
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03 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ccamp-sdhsonet-control-03.txt |
2004-05-01
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05 | Margaret Cullen | [Note]: 'Participant in PROTO Team pilot: Workgroup Chair Followup of AD Evaluation Comments http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-proto-ad-comments-pilot-00.txt' added by Margaret Wasserman |
2004-03-04
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05 | Alex Zinin | State Changes to AD Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from AD Evaluation by Alex Zinin |
2004-03-04
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05 | Alex Zinin | Comments sent to the WG. |
2003-10-22
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05 | Alex Zinin | State Changes to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested by Alex Zinin |
2003-09-18
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05 | Natalia Syracuse | Draft Added by Natalia Syracuse |
2003-02-14
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02 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ccamp-sdhsonet-control-02.txt |
2002-05-23
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01 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ccamp-sdhsonet-control-01.txt |
2002-03-01
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00 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-ccamp-sdhsonet-control-00.txt |