Problem and Applicability Statement for Better-Than-Nothing Security (BTNS)
RFC 5387
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Document history
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2018-12-20
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07 | (System) | Received changes through RFC Editor sync (changed abstract to 'The Internet network security protocol suite, IPsec, requires authentication, usually of network-layer entities, to enable access … Received changes through RFC Editor sync (changed abstract to 'The Internet network security protocol suite, IPsec, requires authentication, usually of network-layer entities, to enable access control and provide security services. This authentication can be based on mechanisms such as pre-shared symmetric keys, certificates with associated asymmetric keys, or the use of Kerberos (via Kerberized Internet Negotiation of Keys (KINK)). The need to deploy authentication information and its associated identities can be a significant obstacle to the use of IPsec. This document explains the rationale for extending the Internet network security protocol suite to enable use of IPsec security services without authentication. These extensions are intended to protect communication, providing "better-than-nothing security" (BTNS). The extensions may be used on their own (this use is called Stand-Alone BTNS, or SAB) or may be used to provide network-layer security that can be authenticated by higher layers in the protocol stack (this use is called Channel-Bound BTNS, or CBB). The document also explains situations for which use of SAB and/or CBB extensions are applicable. This memo provides information for the Internet community.') |
2017-05-16
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07 | (System) | Changed document authors from "David Black, Yu-Shun Wang" to "David Black, Yu-Shun Wang, Joseph Touch" |
2015-10-14
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07 | (System) | Notify list changed from btns-chairs@ietf.org to (None) |
2012-08-22
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07 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Tim Polk |
2012-08-22
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07 | (System) | post-migration administrative database adjustment to the No Objection position for Russ Housley |
2008-11-17
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07 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to RFC Published from RFC Ed Queue by Amy Vezza |
2008-11-17
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07 | Amy Vezza | [Note]: 'RFC 5387' added by Amy Vezza |
2008-11-14
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07 | (System) | RFC published |
2008-10-07
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07 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to No IC from In Progress |
2008-10-07
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07 | (System) | IANA Action state changed to In Progress |
2008-10-07
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07 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent by Amy Vezza |
2008-10-07
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07 | Amy Vezza | IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent |
2008-10-07
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07 | Amy Vezza | IESG has approved the document |
2008-10-07
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07 | Amy Vezza | Closed "Approve" ballot |
2008-10-07
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07 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup by Amy Vezza |
2008-10-06
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07 | Tim Polk | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Tim Polk has been changed to No Objection from Undefined by Tim Polk |
2008-10-06
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07 | Tim Polk | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Tim Polk has been changed to Undefined from Discuss by Tim Polk |
2008-07-08
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07 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2008-07-08
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07 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-btns-prob-and-applic-07.txt |
2008-03-18
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07 | Tim Polk | Responsible AD has been changed to Tim Polk from Sam Hartman |
2008-03-11
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07 | Tim Polk | [Ballot discuss] [This is a revised discuss. I am picking Sam Hartman's procedural discuss associated with Steve Kent's Last Call comments.] Please respond to the … [Ballot discuss] [This is a revised discuss. I am picking Sam Hartman's procedural discuss associated with Steve Kent's Last Call comments.] Please respond to the last call comments from Steve Kent I would not be surprised if the WG rejects some of his comments, but they do need a response and consideration. The document has structural problems: solutions are described in the middle of the problem statement, and facets of the problem statement are introduced in both the BTNS overview and the security considerations section. There are also conflicts - while the document generally proclaims that "BTNS should only be used as a substitute for no security, rather than a substitute for stronger security" it does make arguments for substituting BTNS for authenticated IPsec where the application also performs authentication. While there are issues with multiple authentication mechanisms, most applications will not be using strong mechanisms that are not a comparable substitute for IPsec-based authentication. [Note: I am afraid that Steve's comments will result in substantial churn, so I am not providing a complete list of the structural problems at this time. After Steve Kent's comments are addressed (resolved or rejected), I would be happy to perform another review for remaining structural issues. |
2008-01-11
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07 | (System) | Removed from agenda for telechat - 2008-01-10 |
2008-01-10
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07 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed. Reviewer: Stephen Kent. |
2008-01-10
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07 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to IESG Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead by Amy Vezza |
2008-01-10
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07 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Russ Housley has been changed to No Objection from Discuss by Russ Housley |
2008-01-10
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07 | David Ward | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by David Ward |
2008-01-10
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07 | Ross Callon | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Ross Callon |
2008-01-10
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07 | Russ Housley | [Ballot discuss] Steve Kent sent significant Last Call comments; he sent them to the IETF mail list and the BTNS WG mail list. They … [Ballot discuss] Steve Kent sent significant Last Call comments; he sent them to the IETF mail list and the BTNS WG mail list. They did not reveive any response that was visable on the IETF mail list. I'm sure the WG will not agree with all of Steve's comments, but they cannot be silently discarded. |
2008-01-10
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07 | Russ Housley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded by Russ Housley |
2008-01-10
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07 | Magnus Westerlund | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Magnus Westerlund |
2008-01-10
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07 | Sam Hartman | [Ballot discuss] Please respond to the last call comments from Steve Kent I would not be surprised if the WG rejects some of his comments, … [Ballot discuss] Please respond to the last call comments from Steve Kent I would not be surprised if the WG rejects some of his comments, but they do need a response and consideration. |
2008-01-10
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07 | Sam Hartman | [Ballot discuss] Please respond to the last call comments from Steve Kent |
2008-01-10
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07 | Sam Hartman | [Ballot Position Update] Position for Sam Hartman has been changed to Discuss from Yes by Sam Hartman |
2008-01-10
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07 | Tim Polk | [Ballot discuss] This is a discuss discuss. Depending on the discussion during the call, I will either clear or replace this with an actionable discuss. … [Ballot discuss] This is a discuss discuss. Depending on the discussion during the call, I will either clear or replace this with an actionable discuss. First, let me say that I believe there is a need for BTNS. I would like to see this document progress, along with the other wg deliverables. However, this document has numerous problems. If this was a protocol specification I would definitely insist on modifications, but I am conflicted since this is a problem and applicability statement. It will take a *lot* of effort to develop an actionable discuss. Given that there are no bits on the wire, I can't decide whether to make the effort. The document has structural problems: solutions are described in the middle of the problem statement, and facets of the problem statement are introduced in both the BTNS overview and the security considerations section. There are also conflicts - while the document generally proclaims that "BTNS should only be used as a substitute for no security, rather than a substitute for stronger security" it does make arguments for substituting BTNS for authenticated IPsec where the application also performs authentication. While there are issues with multiple authentication mechanisms, most applications will not be using strong mechanisms that are not a comparable substitute for IPsec-based authentication. There are also a number of smaller, less urgent issues that should be addressed if we are going to reopen this one. So, how important are applicability statements anyway? Is this a publication by the working group for the working group, stating the goals and path? Or is it a document that other wgs will rely on to determine if BTNS is an appropriate solution? If it is the former, I will clear. If it is the latter, I have a lot of work to do. |
2008-01-10
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07 | Tim Polk | [Ballot discuss] This is a discuss discuss. Depending on the discussion during the call, I will either clear or replace this with an actionable discuss. … [Ballot discuss] This is a discuss discuss. Depending on the discussion during the call, I will either clear or replace this with an actionable discuss. First, let me say that I believe there is a need for BTNS. I would like to see this document progress, along with the other wg deliverables. However, this document has numerous problems. If this was a protocol specification I would definitely insist on modifications, but I am conflicted since this is a problem and applicability statement. It will take a *lot* of effort to develop an actionable discuss. Given that there are no bits on the wire, I can't decide whether to make the effort. The document has structural problems: solutions are described in the middle of the problem statement, and facets of the problem statement are introduced in both the BTNS overview and the security considerations section. There are also conflicts - while the document generally proclaims that "BTNS should only be used as a substitute for no security, rather than a substitute for stronger security" it does make arguments for substituting BTNS for authenticated IPsec where the application also performs authentication. While there are issues with multiple authentication mechanisms, most applications will not be using strong mechanisms that are not a comparable substitute for IPsec-based authentication. There are also a number of smaller, less urgent issues that should be addressed if we are going to reopen this one. So, how important are applicability statements anyway? Is this a publication by the working group for the working group, stating the goals and path? Or is it a document that other wgs will rely on to determine if BTNS is an appropriate solution? If it is the former, I will clear. If it is the latter, I have a lot of work to do. |
2008-01-10
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07 | Tim Polk | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded by Tim Polk |
2008-01-10
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07 | Jari Arkko | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded by Jari Arkko |
2008-01-10
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07 | Mark Townsley | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Mark Townsley |
2008-01-10
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07 | Ron Bonica | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Ron Bonica |
2008-01-10
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07 | Chris Newman | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded by Chris Newman |
2008-01-10
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07 | Cullen Jennings | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Cullen Jennings |
2008-01-09
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07 | (System) | State has been changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call by system |
2008-01-09
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07 | Lisa Dusseault | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Lisa Dusseault |
2008-01-08
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07 | Lars Eggert | [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded by Lars Eggert |
2008-01-03
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07 | Sam Hartman | [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Sam Hartman |
2008-01-03
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07 | Sam Hartman | Ballot has been issued by Sam Hartman |
2008-01-03
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07 | Sam Hartman | Created "Approve" ballot |
2008-01-03
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07 | Sam Hartman | Placed on agenda for telechat - 2008-01-10 by Sam Hartman |
2008-01-03
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07 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Stephen Kent |
2008-01-03
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07 | Samuel Weiler | Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Stephen Kent |
2008-01-02
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07 | Amanda Baber | IANA Last Call comments:: As described in the IANA Considerations section, we understand this document to have NO IANA Actions. |
2007-12-21
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07 | Amy Vezza | Last call sent |
2007-12-21
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07 | Amy Vezza | State Changes to In Last Call from Last Call Requested by Amy Vezza |
2007-12-20
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07 | Sam Hartman | State Changes to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation::AD Followup by Sam Hartman |
2007-12-20
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07 | Sam Hartman | Last Call was requested by Sam Hartman |
2007-12-20
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07 | (System) | Ballot writeup text was added |
2007-12-20
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07 | (System) | Last call text was added |
2007-12-20
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07 | (System) | Ballot approval text was added |
2007-10-03
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07 | (System) | Sub state has been changed to AD Follow up from New Id Needed |
2007-10-03
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06 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-btns-prob-and-applic-06.txt |
2007-04-24
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07 | Sam Hartman | State Changes to AD Evaluation::Revised ID Needed from AD Evaluation by Sam Hartman |
2007-04-10
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07 | Sam Hartman | State Changes to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested by Sam Hartman |
2007-04-02
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07 | Dinara Suleymanova | PROTO Write-up (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document and, in particular, … PROTO Write-up (1.a) Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Has the Document Shepherd personally reviewed this version of the document and, in particular, does he or she believe this version is ready for forwarding to the IESG for publication? The Document Shepherd for this document is Julien Laganier, BTNS co-chair, who reviewed this version of the document and believes this version is ready for forwarding to the IESG. (1.b) Has the document had adequate review both from key WG members and from key non-WG members? Does the Document Shepherd have any concerns about the depth or breadth of the reviews that have been performed? Yes, the document had review from both inside and outside the WG. (1.c) Does the Document Shepherd have concerns that the document needs more review from a particular or broader perspective, e.g., security, operational complexity, someone familiar with AAA, internationalization or XML? No. (1.d) Does the Document Shepherd have any specific concerns or issues with this document that the Responsible Area Director and/or the IESG should be aware of? For example, perhaps he or she is uncomfortable with certain parts of the document, or has concerns whether there really is a need for it. In any event, if the WG has discussed those issues and has indicated that it still wishes to advance the document, detail those concerns here. Has an IPR disclosure related to this document been filed? If so, please include a reference to the disclosure and summarize the WG discussion and conclusion on this issue. No. (1.e) How solid is the WG consensus behind this document? Does it represent the strong concurrence of a few individuals, with others being silent, or does the WG as a whole understand and agree with it? The WG is behind this document. (1.f) Has anyone threatened an appeal or otherwise indicated extreme discontent? If so, please summarise the areas of conflict in separate email messages to the Responsible Area Director. (It should be in a separate email because this questionnaire is entered into the ID Tracker.) No. (1.g) Has the Document Shepherd personally verified that the document satisfies all ID nits? (See http://www.ietf.org/ID-Checklist.html and http://tools.ietf.org/tools/idnits/). Boilerplate checks are not enough; this check needs to be thorough. Has the document met all formal review criteria it needs to, such as the MIB Doctor, media type and URI type reviews? Yes. (1.h) Has the document split its references into normative and informative? Are there normative references to documents that are not ready for advancement or are otherwise in an unclear state? If such normative references exist, what is the strategy for their completion? Are there normative references that are downward references, as described in [RFC3967]? If so, list these downward references to support the Area Director in the Last Call procedure for them [RFC3967]. Yes (The document has no normative references). (1.i) Has the Document Shepherd verified that the document IANA consideration section exists and is consistent with the body of the document? If the document specifies protocol extensions, are reservations requested in appropriate IANA registries? Are the IANA registries clearly identified? If the document creates a new registry, does it define the proposed initial contents of the registry and an allocation procedure for future registrations? Does it suggest a reasonable name for the new registry? See [RFC2434]. If the document describes an Expert Review process has Shepherd conferred with the Responsible Area Director so that the IESG can appoint the needed Expert during the IESG Evaluation? Yes (The document has no IANA considerations). (1.j) Has the Document Shepherd verified that sections of the document that are written in a formal language, such as XML code, BNF rules, MIB definitions, etc., validate correctly in an automated checker? Yes (The document does not contain formal language). (1.k) The IESG approval announcement includes a Document Announcement Write-Up. Please provide such a Document Announcement Write-Up? Recent examples can be found in the "Action" announcements for approved documents. The approval announcement contains the following sections: Technical Summary Relevant content can frequently be found in the abstract and/or introduction of the document. If not, this may be an indication that there are deficiencies in the abstract or introduction. The Internet network security protocol suite, IPsec, consisting of IKE, ESP, and AH, generally requires authentication of network layer entities to bootstrap security. This authentication can be based on mechanisms such as pre-shared symmetric keys, certificates and associated asymmetric keys, or the use of Kerberos. The need to deploy authentication information and its associated identities to network layer entities can be a significant obstacle to use of network security. This document explains the rationale for extending the Internet network security suite to enable use of IPsec security mechanisms without authentication. These extensions are intended to protect communication in a "better than nothing" (BTNS) fashion. The extensions may be used on their own (Stand Alone BTNS, or SAB), or may be useful in providing network layer security that can be authenticated by higher layers in the protocol stack, called Channel Bound BTNS (CBB). This document also explains situations in which use of SAB and CBB extensions are appropriate. Working Group Summary Was there anything in WG process that is worth noting? For example, was there controversy about particular points or were there decisions where the consensus was particularly rough? This document is a product of the Better Than Nothing Security (BTNS) working group. Document Quality Are there existing implementations of the protocol? Have a significant number of vendors indicated their plan to implement the specification? Are there any reviewers that merit special mention as having done a thorough review, e.g., one that resulted in important changes or a conclusion that the document had no substantive issues? If there was a MIB Doctor, Media Type or other expert review, what was its course (briefly)? In the case of a Media Type review, on what date was the request posted? No. Personnel Who is the Document Shepherd for this document? Who is the Responsible Area Director? The Document Shepherd for this document is Julien Laganier (BTNS co-chair) and the Responsible Area Director is Sam Hartman. |
2007-04-02
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07 | Dinara Suleymanova | Draft Added by Dinara Suleymanova in state Publication Requested |
2007-02-14
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05 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-btns-prob-and-applic-05.txt |
2006-09-27
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04 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-btns-prob-and-applic-04.txt |
2006-06-06
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03 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-btns-prob-and-applic-03.txt |
2006-02-21
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02 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-btns-prob-and-applic-02.txt |
2005-09-26
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01 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-btns-prob-and-applic-01.txt |
2005-07-05
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00 | (System) | New version available: draft-ietf-btns-prob-and-applic-00.txt |