RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) Extended Report (XR) Block for Delay Metric Reporting
RFC 6843
Yes
(Gonzalo Camarillo)
No Objection
(Adrian Farrel)
(Brian Haberman)
(Martin Stiemerling)
(Pete Resnick)
(Ralph Droms)
(Robert Sparks)
(Ron Bonica)
(Russ Housley)
(Sean Turner)
(Stewart Bryant)
(Wesley Eddy)
Note: This ballot was opened for revision 10 and is now closed.
Gonzalo Camarillo Former IESG member
Yes
Yes
(for -10)
Adrian Farrel Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -10)
Barry Leiba Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2012-10-29 for -10)
Nicely written document. Just one non-blocking comment that you needn't respond to. -- Section 3.2 -- A very minor point, but I find the double-parenthesised explanation of the Interval Metric Flag to be somewhat awkward. I will suggest this, but if you don't want to change it that's also fine: NEW This field is used to indicate whether the Delay metrics are Sampled, Interval or Cumulative metrics: I=10: Interval Duration - the reported value applies to the most recent measurement interval duration between successive metrics reports. I=11: Cumulative Duration - the reported value applies to the accumulation period characteristic of cumulative measurements. I=01: Sampled Value - the reported value is a sampled instantaneous value. END
Benoît Claise Former IESG member
(was Discuss)
No Objection
No Objection
(2012-11-16 for -11)
Thanks for addressing my comments, copied over here, for historical reasons: In one of my previous DISCUSS-DISCUSS on xr-block, we settle on: - RFC 6390 template is required for new perf metric definition - RFC 6390 template is a nice-to-have when we refer to an existing perf metric Nice-to-have because the performance metric reference doesn't always include all the required information about: measurement points, measurement timing, use and applications, reporting model, etc... but focus only on the "Method of Measurement or Calculation" It might not be fair to change the requirements on this document, while it left the WG some time ago. So I'm ready to let go without the RFC6390 template (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6390#section-5.4.4) So I'm not opposed to the publication of this document for THAT reason. Note that I will be stricter with future documents. However, back to this document. You should do a better job of documenting what is required, both from an implementer point of view, and the performance metrics semantic, for someone who might want to(re)- use the metric. Feel free to discuss with me if I can be of any help For example: the measurement period is mentioned multiple times in the metric definitions Mean Network Round Trip Delay: 32 bits The Mean Network Round Trip Delay is the mean value of the RTP-to- RTP interface round trip delay over the measurement period, expressed in units of 1/65536 seconds. However, you don't mention where to find it. I guess it relates to the measurement interval mentioned in This metric block relies on the measurement interval in the Measurement Information block indicating the span of the report and SHOULD be sent in the same compound RTCP packet as the measurement information block. Assuming that the readers understand that the two different names are related, it doesn't tell where to find this information. Is this in http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc6776/ ? For example, Min Network Round Trip Delay: 32 bits The Min Network Round Trip Delay is the minimum value of the RTP- to-RTP interface round trip delay over the measurement period, expressed in units of 1/65536 seconds. This value is typically determined using RTCP SR/RR. It also can be determined using RTCP Receiver Reference Time Report Block and DLRR Report Block. The last two sentences. Why not be a little bit more explicit, telling exactly which fields need to be taken into consideration from RTCP SR/SR and from DLRR report block.
Brian Haberman Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -10)
Martin Stiemerling Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -10)
Pete Resnick Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -10)
Ralph Droms Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -10)
Robert Sparks Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -10)
Ron Bonica Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -10)
Russ Housley Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -10)
Sean Turner Former IESG member
(was Discuss)
No Objection
No Objection
(for -11)
Stephen Farrell Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(2012-11-12 for -10)
- 3.2: Is the reference to 3611, section 4.1 correct as a definition for SSRC? - Not a comment on this draft, but rfc 3611 says that XR packets should not be encrypted. Has anyone looked to see if the information leaked by reporting like this could expose information about encrypted e.g. VoIP traffic? For example, the SSRC will be sent in this report in clear, so one might wonder if that could help someone attack elsewhere. Since the xrblock WG are doing a bunch of these, I guess it migth be worth some thought to see if there are any bad security effects with all of that.
Stewart Bryant Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -10)
Wesley Eddy Former IESG member
No Objection
No Objection
(for -10)