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IAB, IESG, and IAOC Selection, Confirmation, and Recall Process: Operation of the Nominating and Recall Committees
RFC 7437

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Date Rev. By Action
2015-10-14
04 (System) Notify list changed from superuser@gmail.com, barryleiba@gmail.com to (None)
2015-01-06
04 (System) RFC published
2015-01-06
04 (System) RFC Editor state changed to <a href="http://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc7437">AUTH48-DONE</a> from AUTH48
2014-12-23
04 (System) RFC Editor state changed to <a href="http://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc7437">AUTH48</a> from RFC-EDITOR
2014-12-18
04 (System) RFC Editor state changed to RFC-EDITOR from EDIT
2014-11-26
04 Cindy Morgan IESG state changed to RFC Ed Queue from Approved-announcement sent
2014-11-26
04 (System) RFC Editor state changed to EDIT
2014-11-26
04 (System) Announcement was received by RFC Editor
2014-11-26
04 (System) IANA Action state changed to No IC from In Progress
2014-11-26
04 (System) IANA Action state changed to In Progress
2014-11-26
04 Amy Vezza IESG state changed to Approved-announcement sent from Approved-announcement to be sent
2014-11-26
04 Amy Vezza IESG has approved the document
2014-11-26
04 Amy Vezza Closed "Approve" ballot
2014-11-26
04 Amy Vezza Ballot approval text was generated
2014-11-25
04 Barry Leiba IESG state changed to Approved-announcement to be sent from IESG Evaluation::AD Followup
2014-11-25
04 (System) Sub state has been changed to AD Followup from Revised ID Needed
2014-11-25
04 Murray Kucherawy IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - No Actions Needed
2014-11-25
04 Murray Kucherawy New version available: draft-kucherawy-rfc3777bis-04.txt
2014-11-25
03 Richard Barnes
[Ballot comment]
Abstaining because I don't really think that it's useful to publish "roll-up" documents like this.

Section 1.
"The meetings are referred to as …
[Ballot comment]
Abstaining because I don't really think that it's useful to publish "roll-up" documents like this.

Section 1.
"The meetings are referred to as the First IETF, Second IETF, or Third IETF as needed."
It would be helpful to clarify that these are First, Second, and Third "of the year".

Section 1.
"The time frames specified here use IETF meetings as a frame of reference."
I would like to not end up in a constitutional crisis if we decide to change the number or spacing of the meetings.  Can we clarify here that if the assumptions made about IETF meetings change, then ... it's up to the NOMCOM chair to adjust the schedule?
2014-11-25
03 Richard Barnes [Ballot Position Update] Position for Richard Barnes has been changed to Abstain from Discuss
2014-11-25
03 Cindy Morgan IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation::Revised I-D Needed from IESG Evaluation
2014-11-25
03 Richard Barnes
[Ballot discuss]
Section 3.7.1.
"The IETF Executive Director"
Holy process arcana, Batman!  It took me a fair bit of digging to figure out that this …
[Ballot discuss]
Section 3.7.1.
"The IETF Executive Director"
Holy process arcana, Batman!  It took me a fair bit of digging to figure out that this is a secret code for "the IAOC or their delegate" [RFC4071].  Please add a note in the terminology to say that this phrase is used only for convenience, and that the actual completion of these duties is the responsibility of the IAOC.
2014-11-25
03 Richard Barnes
[Ballot comment]
Section 1.
"The meetings are referred to as the First IETF, Second IETF, or Third IETF as needed."
It would be helpful to …
[Ballot comment]
Section 1.
"The meetings are referred to as the First IETF, Second IETF, or Third IETF as needed."
It would be helpful to clarify that these are First, Second, and Third "of the year".

Section 1.
"The time frames specified here use IETF meetings as a frame of reference."
I would like to not end up in a constitutional crisis if we decide to change the number or spacing of the meetings.  Can we clarify here that if the assumptions made about IETF meetings change, then ... it's up to the NOMCOM chair to adjust the schedule?
2014-11-25
03 Richard Barnes Ballot comment and discuss text updated for Richard Barnes
2014-11-25
03 Joel Jaeggli [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Joel Jaeggli
2014-11-25
03 Jari Arkko
[Ballot comment]
THANK YOU for doing this work, and particularly for keeping it to the compilation of changes rather than a shopping list of desirable …
[Ballot comment]
THANK YOU for doing this work, and particularly for keeping it to the compilation of changes rather than a shopping list of desirable tweaks :-)
2014-11-25
03 Jari Arkko [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Jari Arkko
2014-11-25
03 Ted Lemon [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ted Lemon has been changed to Yes from No Objection
2014-11-25
03 Ted Lemon
[Ballot comment]
This is a real improvement over the existing state of the art.  I've dropped my previous discuss, which was the result of catching …
[Ballot comment]
This is a real improvement over the existing state of the art.  I've dropped my previous discuss, which was the result of catching a nit in -02 that had already been fixed in -03.  Thanks!
2014-11-25
03 Ted Lemon [Ballot Position Update] Position for Ted Lemon has been changed to No Objection from Discuss
2014-11-25
03 Ted Lemon
[Ballot discuss]
This is a real improvement over the existing state of the art--thanks for doing it.  I have a question I'd like to discuss, …
[Ballot discuss]
This is a real improvement over the existing state of the art--thanks for doing it.  I have a question I'd like to discuss, but I anticipate dropping the discuss quickly; I'm not sure whether the document needs updated or I just missed something.  In section 4.3, the number of liaisons is changed (from 3777) from three to four.  However, I don't see any change to the document that says who the fourth liaison is, and indeed the text only seems to mention three liaisons.  What did I miss?
2014-11-25
03 Ted Lemon [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Ted Lemon
2014-11-25
03 Benoît Claise
[Ballot comment]
I have not seen a reply to Bert Wijnen's point:
while reviewing I noticed this:

- section 2:

  sitting member:  A person …
[Ballot comment]
I have not seen a reply to Bert Wijnen's point:
while reviewing I noticed this:

- section 2:

  sitting member:  A person who is currently serving a term of
      membership in the IESG, IAB, or ISOC Board of Trustees.

Are you sure it is an ISOC Board of Trustees member? Or did you mean
IAOC member. I think you did. The IETF NOMCOM has no say about
ISOC Trustees as far as I know.


Thanks for this work. Regards, Benoit
2014-11-25
03 Benoît Claise [Ballot Position Update] Position for Benoit Claise has been changed to No Objection from Yes
2014-11-25
03 Benoît Claise [Ballot comment]
Thanks for this work.

Regards, Benoit
2014-11-25
03 Benoît Claise [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Benoit Claise
2014-11-25
03 Martin Stiemerling [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Martin Stiemerling
2014-11-24
03 Richard Barnes
[Ballot discuss]
Section 1.
"The time frames specified here use IETF meetings as a frame of reference."
I would like to not end up in …
[Ballot discuss]
Section 1.
"The time frames specified here use IETF meetings as a frame of reference."
I would like to not end up in a constitutional crisis if we decide to change the number or spacing of the meetings.  Can we clarify here that if the assumptions made about IETF meetings change, then ... it's up to the NOMCOM chair to adjust the schedule?

Section 3.7.1.
"The IETF Executive Director"
Holy process arcana, Batman!  It took me a fair bit of digging to figure out that this is a secret code for "the IAOC or their delegate" [RFC4071].  Please add a note in the terminology to say that this phrase is used only for convenience, and that the actual completion of these duties is the responsibility of the IAOC.
2014-11-24
03 Richard Barnes
[Ballot comment]
Section 1.
"The meetings are referred to as the First IETF, Second IETF, or Third IETF as needed."
It would be helpful to …
[Ballot comment]
Section 1.
"The meetings are referred to as the First IETF, Second IETF, or Third IETF as needed."
It would be helpful to clarify that these are First, Second, and Third "of the year".
2014-11-24
03 Richard Barnes [Ballot Position Update] New position, Discuss, has been recorded for Richard Barnes
2014-11-24
03 Pete Resnick [Ballot comment]
3.1 and throughout - Probably useful to use the "seven (7)" convention when using numbers.
2014-11-24
03 Pete Resnick [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Pete Resnick
2014-11-24
03 Alissa Cooper [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Alissa Cooper
2014-11-24
03 Spencer Dawkins
[Ballot comment]
I only wish "Heck, yes" was a defined ballot position.

I've been reading through various versions of this draft since -00, and believe …
[Ballot comment]
I only wish "Heck, yes" was a defined ballot position.

I've been reading through various versions of this draft since -00, and believe -03 does a good job of folding in post-RFC 3777 updates without introducing changes to the Nomcom process, as the author was asked to do. Thanks for doing it.
2014-11-24
03 Spencer Dawkins [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Spencer Dawkins
2014-11-24
03 Stephen Farrell [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Stephen Farrell
2014-11-24
03 Brian Haberman [Ballot Position Update] New position, No Objection, has been recorded for Brian Haberman
2014-11-23
03 Kathleen Moriarty
[Ballot comment]
The document updates are very helpful, thanks for your work on this draft.

My only comment is from personal experience, possibly for appendix …
[Ballot comment]
The document updates are very helpful, thanks for your work on this draft.

My only comment is from personal experience, possibly for appendix C. It is not cut-and-dry timeline information, but rather more anecdotal information passed from experience (in the intent of the appendix, but this particular appendix is not written that way).  I believe last year's process ran a little late (I could be wrong), but in any case, the time line was tight to wrap up my work at EMC.  I had hoped to take a week off in between, but was not able to do that as the transition work began very quickly.  It might be good to ensure folks have time as you are often getting senior level candidates who lead big projects that have to be wrapped up and some time off in between could be very beneficial.  Perhaps a reminder of those considerations would be helpful.
2014-11-23
03 Kathleen Moriarty [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Kathleen Moriarty
2014-11-22
03 Barry Leiba Ballot writeup was changed
2014-11-22
03 Adrian Farrel
[Ballot comment]
I think it is really helpful to have this compilation available for future NomComs and to act as a foundation for any changes …
[Ballot comment]
I think it is really helpful to have this compilation available for future NomComs and to act as a foundation for any changes we want to make. Thanks for making it.

Any time you want to spell my name right you can go right ahead and do it.
2014-11-22
03 Adrian Farrel [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Adrian Farrel
2014-11-21
03 (System) IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - No Actions Needed from Version Changed - Review Needed
2014-11-19
03 Barry Leiba Changed consensus to Yes from Unknown
2014-11-19
03 Barry Leiba Ballot has been issued
2014-11-19
03 Barry Leiba [Ballot Position Update] New position, Yes, has been recorded for Barry Leiba
2014-11-19
03 Barry Leiba Created "Approve" ballot
2014-11-19
03 Barry Leiba IESG state changed to IESG Evaluation from Waiting for AD Go-Ahead
2014-11-18
03 Christer Holmberg Request for Last Call review by GENART Completed: Ready. Reviewer: Christer Holmberg.
2014-11-18
03 (System) IESG state changed to Waiting for AD Go-Ahead from In Last Call
2014-11-14
03 Murray Kucherawy New version available: draft-kucherawy-rfc3777bis-03.txt
2014-11-13
02 Murray Kucherawy IANA Review state changed to Version Changed - Review Needed from IANA OK - No Actions Needed
2014-11-13
02 Murray Kucherawy New version available: draft-kucherawy-rfc3777bis-02.txt
2014-10-30
01 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Warren Kumari.
2014-10-30
01 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR Completed: Has Nits. Reviewer: Bert Wijnen.
2014-10-28
01 Barry Leiba Placed on agenda for telechat - 2014-11-25
2014-10-28
01 Barry Leiba Ballot writeup was changed
2014-10-27
01 (System) IANA Review state changed to IANA OK - No Actions Needed from IANA - Review Needed
2014-10-27
01 Pearl Liang
IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has reviewed draft-kucherawy-rfc3777bis-01, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments:

We understand that, upon approval of this …
IESG/Authors/WG Chairs:

IANA has reviewed draft-kucherawy-rfc3777bis-01, which is currently in Last Call, and has the following comments:

We understand that, upon approval of this document, there are no IANA Actions that need completion.

While it is helpful for the IANA Considerations section of the document to remain in place upon publication, if the authors prefer to remove it, IANA doesn't object.

If this assessment is not accurate, please respond as soon as possible.
2014-10-24
01 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Bert Wijnen
2014-10-24
01 Gunter Van de Velde Request for Last Call review by OPSDIR is assigned to Bert Wijnen
2014-10-23
01 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Christer Holmberg
2014-10-23
01 Jean Mahoney Request for Last Call review by GENART is assigned to Christer Holmberg
2014-10-23
01 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Warren Kumari
2014-10-23
01 Tero Kivinen Request for Last Call review by SECDIR is assigned to Warren Kumari
2014-10-21
01 Cindy Morgan IANA Review state changed to IANA - Review Needed
2014-10-21
01 Cindy Morgan
The following Last Call announcement was sent out:<br><br>From: The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
To: IETF-Announce <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org
Sender: <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
Subject: …
The following Last Call announcement was sent out:<br><br>From: The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
To: IETF-Announce <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org
Sender: <iesg-secretary@ietf.org>
Subject: Last Call: <draft-kucherawy-rfc3777bis-01.txt> (IAB, IESG, and IAOC Selection, Confirmation, and Recall Process: Operation of the Nominating and Recall Committees) to Best Current Practice


The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:
- 'IAB, IESG, and IAOC Selection, Confirmation, and Recall Process:
  Operation of the Nominating and Recall Committees'
  <draft-kucherawy-rfc3777bis-01.txt> as Best Current Practice

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
ietf@ietf.org mailing lists by 2014-11-18. Exceptionally, comments may be
sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the
beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract


  The process by which the members of the IAB and IESG, and some
  members of the IAOC, are selected, confirmed, and recalled is
  specified in this document.  This document is a self-consistent,
  organized compilation of the process as it was known at the time of
  publication of [RFC3777], with various updates since that version was
  published.




The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kucherawy-rfc3777bis/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kucherawy-rfc3777bis/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.


2014-10-21
01 Cindy Morgan IESG state changed to In Last Call from Last Call Requested
2014-10-21
01 Barry Leiba Last call was requested
2014-10-21
01 Barry Leiba Last call announcement was generated
2014-10-21
01 Barry Leiba Ballot approval text was generated
2014-10-21
01 Barry Leiba Ballot writeup was generated
2014-10-21
01 Barry Leiba IESG state changed to Last Call Requested from AD Evaluation
2014-10-21
01 Barry Leiba IESG state changed to AD Evaluation from Publication Requested
2014-10-21
01 Barry Leiba Assigned to General Area
2014-10-21
01 Barry Leiba IESG process started in state Publication Requested
2014-10-21
01 Barry Leiba Changed document writeup
2014-10-21
01 Barry Leiba Notification list changed to "Barry Leiba" <barryleiba@gmail.com>
2014-10-21
01 Barry Leiba Document shepherd changed to Barry Leiba
2014-10-21
01 Barry Leiba Intended Status changed to Best Current Practice from None
2014-10-21
01 Barry Leiba Stream changed to IETF from None
2014-09-15
01 Murray Kucherawy New version available: draft-kucherawy-rfc3777bis-01.txt
2014-09-03
00 Murray Kucherawy New version available: draft-kucherawy-rfc3777bis-00.txt