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IAB, IESG and IEEE 802 Executive Committee Minutes of the 12 February 2018 Teleconference Reported by: Cindy Morgan (IAB Executive Administrative Manager) ATTENDEES ------------------- - Deborah Brungard - Spencer Dawkins - Normal Finn - Bob Grow - Jodi Haasz - Ted Hardie - Bob Heile - Russ Housley - Warren Kumari - Roger Marks - Cindy Morgan - Paul Nikolich - Alvaro Retana - Jon Rosdahl - Dan Romascanu - Melinda Shore (?) - Dorothy Stanley - Pascal Thubert - Bernie Volz - Robert Wilton MINUTES ------------------- 1. Roll Call and Agenda Bashing 2. Action Items - In Progress o None - New o None 3. March 2018 meetings: 3.1. IETF BOFs that may be relevant to IEEE 802 https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/ - IASA 2.0 (IASA20) - Identifier Locator Addressing (ILA) - Common Operations and Management on network Slices (COMS) Russ Housley noted that this may be of interest those working on operations and management in 802.1; there are YANG models associated with the work. - Routing In Fat Trees (RIFT) RIFT was approved as a Working Group on 8 February 2018. - Link State Vector Routing (LSVR) - EAP Method Update (EMU) The EMU WG had previously closed, and is in the process of chartering to reopen the WG. This work may be of interest to 802.1X. - Trusted Execution Environment Provisioning (TEEP) Russ Housley noted that this has some overlap with the recently- chartered SUIT WG. - Security Dispatch (SECDISPATCH) - Messaging Layer Security (MLS) Russ Housley reported that MLS will look at unique key management issues. 3.2. IEEE 802 PARs that may be relevant to IETF http://www.ieee802.org/PARs.shtml - P802.1CBcv - Amendment: Information Model, YANG Data Model and Management Information Base Module Paul Nikolich noted that P802.1CBcv will use open source, which is new for 802. - 802.1DC - Standard for Quality of Service Provision by Network Systems - 802.1CBdb - Amendment: Extended Stream Identification Functions - 802.1Qcz - Amendment: Congestion Isolation Spencer Dawkins reported that there will be a brief update on 802.1Qcz during the TSVAREA meeting at IETF 101, as well as a more technical discussion on the topic during the ICCRG meeting at IETF 101. - P60802 - Standard: Time-Sensitive Networking Profile for Industrial Automation Paul Nikolich reported that P60802 will be a collaboration with IEC; this will be the first time they have collaborated with them on a standard. Russ Housley asked how the approval process will work for the joint standard. Paul replied that they have set up a detailed inter-group process and will be developing drafts in parallel. Spencer Dawkins asked if this work would be closely tied with the work happening in the DETNET WG. Norman Finn replied that the work will be of interest to DETNET as well as 801.1DC. Deborah Brungard noted that DETNET already reflects this in their requirements. - 802.3cg, Amendment: 10 Mb/s Operation over Single Balanced Twisted- pair Cabling and Associated Power Delivery, PAR Modification and CSD Modification - 802.3ck - Amendment: 100 Gb/s Signaling - 802.3cm - Amendment: 400Gb/s over MMF - 802.11bb - Amendment: Light Communications (LC) - 802.15.4w - Amendment: LPWA (Low Power Wide Area) Bob Heile noted that the 802.15.4w amendment focuses on enhancements to low-power critical devices and may be of interest to the LPWAN WG. - 802.15.4x - Amendment: FANE (Field Area Network Enhancements) - 802.15.4y - Amendment: SECN (Security Next Generation) - 802.15.4z - Amendment: EIR (Enhanced IR-UWB Ranging) - 802.22.3 - Standard: Spectrum Characterization and Occupancy Sensing , PAR Modification, PAR Extension, and CSD In addition to the PARs, Dorothy Stanley reported that the IEEE 802.11 BroadCast Services (BCS) Study Group is proposed for approval in March; the document outlining the motivation for the Study Group is available at https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/17/11-17-1736-04-0wng- broadcast-service-on-wlan.pptx. A Pre-Study Group activity, a Topic Interest Group investigating the technical feasibility of Full Duplex operation was recently formed, and will be active through the September 2018 meeting. Bob Grow added that there is a call for interest on forming a Study Group on Bidirectional 10Gb/s and 25Gb/s optical access PHYs. 4. Areas of shared interest between the IETF and IEEE 802 See https://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2013/01/Potential- areas-for-IETF_IEEE802-Coordination_25.txt - Item 3. IETF NVO3 and IEEE 802.1 DCB Russ Housley noted that this is waiting on the IEEE 802.1Qcy document to be sent to the IETF for review once it is stable. - Item 5. Enabling use of Local Addresses for virtualization and IoT Bernie Volz reported that he and Tomek Mrugalski intend to submit a draft outlining how to use DHCPv6 to get a MAC address as well as an IPv6 address before the IETF 101 draft submission deadline. The draft will be discussed in the DHC WG. Russ Housley asked Bernie Volz to send him a pointer to the draft once it has been uploaded, so that it can be tracked on the shared items list. - Item 11. IETF and IEEE 802.1 OmniRAN TG Russ Housley noted that this is waiting for the 802.1CF document to be sent to the IETF for review once it is stable. - Item 21. 6tisch Russ Housley reported that the 6TISCH WG and 802.15 have been sharing information informally. Pascal Thubert reported that the 6TISCH document is almost ready to go to the IESG. Russ asked Pascal to send him a one-line status update to be added to the shared items list. - Item 22. CAPWAP extensions in OPSAWG Warren Kumari reported that draft-ietf-opsawg-capwap-alt-tunnel has been approved by the IESG and submitted to the RFC Editor for publication. This item will be closed. - Item 24. Coordination between the IETF and IEEE 802 on Pervasive Monitoring Dorothy Stanley reported that progress in 802E has been slow, and that Juan-Carlos Zuniga is trying to accelerate things. - Item 25. Layer2/Layer 3 Interaction for Time-Sensitive Traffic Russ Housley noted that there is an open action to make sure that the relevant documents are circulated between 802.1 and the DETNET WG at balloting and Last Call milestones, but that neither of those things have happened yet. - Item 27. Development of YANG models in the IEEE 802 Bob Grow reported that there has not been much progress made on this in the IEEE RAC. 802.1 is looking at automated tools to produce YANG models, but they still do not have a viable approach to come up with friendly names. Warren Kumari agreed to carry that message back to Benoit Claise and Ignas Bagdonas. - Item 30. Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) Russ Housley reported that draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb has completed Working Group Last Call. Comments received during the Working Group Last Call are being addressed, and this should be sent to the IESG soon. 5. AOB There was no other business and the meeting was adjourned.