Liaison statement
LS response to IETF on "Quality of Outcome (QoO)"
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| State | Posted |
|---|---|
| Submitted Date | 2025-12-10 |
| From Group | BROADBAND-FORUM |
| From Contact | lylavoie@iol.unh.edu |
| To Group | ippm |
| To Contacts | Marcus Ihlar <marcus.ihlar@ericsson.com> Thomas Graf <thomas.graf@swisscom.com> |
| Cc | Marcus Ihlar <marcus.ihlar@ericsson.com> Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com> Xueyan Song <song.xueyan2@zte.com.cn> Mohamed Boucadair <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Thomas Graf <thomas.graf@swisscom.com> IP Performance Measurement Discussion List <ippm@ietf.org> Liaisons at BBF <liaisons@broadband-forum.org> Lincoln Lavoie <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu> Craig Thomas <cthomas@broadband-forum.org> Karina Rocha-Gabbard <krocha@broadband-forum.org> Jonathan Newton <jonathan.newton@vodafone.com> Christele Bouchat <christele.bouchat@nokia.com> |
| Purpose | For information |
| Attachments | LIAISE-731 |
| Liaisons referred by this one |
Liaison to BBF on “Quality of Outcome (QoO)”
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| Body |
We thank IETF IPPM for the liaison regarding “Quality of Outcome (QoO)” introduced in IETF draft-ietf-ippm-qoo. Noting that this informational draft builds upon BBF work on Quality Attenuation, we particularly appreciate the request to review the draft prior to the IETF Last Call. From our review, the Broadband Forum (BBF) would like to provide the following observations on draft-ietf-ippm-qoo-04: 1. The reference to BBF TR-452.1 is correct and appropriate. 2. The use of the term Quality Attenuation (QA) in the draft is consistent with BBF’s definition. 3. Whilst the BBF defined the term ‘outcome' more generically as 'something that can be observed to start at some point in time and may be observed to complete at some later time', we also use the more specific term 'application outcome’ which aligns well to the use of the term ‘quality of outcome’ in this draft. 4. We applaud the requirement for composable metrics stated in this draft as this is also recognised as a critical requirement by our members. 5. Overall, we see that this work builds appropriately on our work, and we find no contradictions with our published or in-progress work on Quality Attenuation. We take this opportunity to bring your attention to our related published works which are available here (https://www.broadband-forum.org/technical-library/?number=452): TR-452.4: QED Measurement Formats TR-452.2: Quality Attenuation Measurements using Active Test Protocols TR-452.5: TR-452.5 Quality Attenuation Measurements Using L2 PM OAM TR-452.7: Quality Attenuation Measurements Using L2 and L3 Active Protocols in Multicast Environments BBF acknowledges and appreciates the work of IETF IPPM on this draft. We look forward to continued constructive cooperation between our organizations. Sincerely, Lincoln Lavoie, Broadband Forum Technical Committee Chair CC: Liaisons at BBF <liaisons@broadband-forum.org> Lincoln Lavoie, Broadband Forum Technical Committee Chair <lylavoie@iol.unh.edu> Craig Thomas, Broadband Forum Managing Director <cthomas@broadband-forum.org> Karina Rocha-Gabbard, Broadband Forum Member Support Manager <krocha@broadband-forum.org> Jonathan Newton, Broadband Forum Network Architecture Working Area Director <jonathan.newton@vodafone.com> Christele Bouchat, Broadband Forum Network Architecture Working Area Director <christele.bouchat@nokia.com> IETF Liaison Coordinator <bbf-liaison@ietf.org> IETF Liaison Secretary <statements@ietf.org> Broadband Forum Reference: LIAISE-731 In Response to Incoming Liaison: LIAISE-724 Date of Upcoming Broadband Forum Meetings: See https://www.broadband-forum.org/events/?category=upcoming-member-meetings Attachments: None |