London Hilton Metropole Hotel, England Monday, 19 March 2018. 17:40-18:40 Palace C Room Chairs: Sue Hares (Hickory Hill Consulting) Jon Hudson (self) Secretary: Donald Eastlake (Huawei) Minutes of the Last TRILL WG Meeting ------------------------------------ [In the absence of both co-chairs, Donald Eastlake presided.] [Times given are the amount orignally scheduled, not the amount of time actually taken.] Alia Atlas (Juniper, TRILL RTG AD): People in the back should move forward since it's really hard to get choclate to them in back. 5 min. Administrativia (scribes), Agenda Bashing, Chairs ------------------------------------------------- See slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/slides-101-trill-agenda-and-status-02 Donald Eastlake (Huawei, Acting Chair): Well, I guess we'll get underway. I'm Donald Eastlake with Huawei and will be acting as Chair, in the absence of the co-chairs, since I'm WG Secretary. People should be aware of the Note Well ... Anyone willing to volunteer to be Jabber scribe? [inaudible] OK, Alia has volunteered to do that. Donald: This is planned to be the last TRILL WG meeting. No one else has requested to present so I will be presenting on the History of TRILL. Any agenda bashing? Anything to add or delete? I guess there isn't much to delete. Since there is no response, I'll go over document status. 5 min. Status, Chairs -------------- Donald: These slides are almost up to date. We have had one RFC published since the last TRILL meeting and we have a bunch of dcouments in the RFC Editor's queue, including one more not shown here. Of these Centralized Replication was added to the RFC Editor's queue a while ago and is now in AUTH48, about to pop out. ... [reviews the other drafts now in the RFC editors queue] ... We have other drafts ... aggregated multi-level ... group keying drafts will probably go to SECDISPATCH. There are also the YANG drafts. These have mostly bee handled by Sue Hares as co-Chair but she has a health problem and is not here. I believe she plans to complete them. There is a base TRILL YANG draft and one on OAM plus one on Performance Measurement [PM]. There are RFC on how to do OAM and PM but these are the YANG models. There is also a draft in the IDR WG on sending TRILL link state through BGP. [Attempt by Ramkumar Parameswaran to participate as a remote speaker. Sound quality was too poor.] Alis: Can't hear you very well. Try typing? Donald: Send it on Jabber perhaps. Alia: Oh, it's about the Parent Selection draft. Is you question how it would progress? Yes. That's it. Donald: He is the author of that draft. Alia: What's going on is that we had a lot of work to finish up in TRILL. I expect to close the TRILL WG after this meeting. If you have enthusiasm for persuing the Parent Selection draft you have some options. You can bring it to the RTGWG Working Group. We can talk about that. Or you can talk to Martin [Martin Vigoureaux, new RTG AD] about AD sponsoring the draft. Does that answer you question? OK, good. Alia: We have gotten an amazing amount of work through with TRILL. There are deployments. I'm expecting to close the WG is about an hour. There is one document, TRILL over IP, that didn't make the cut off. There are some issues with that one -- Martin is taking over moving that draft forward. Donald: Well, I could start my presentation now but there is a cake at the back of the room. Unforuntately, those participating remotely will not be able to partake of the cake, which just rolled into the room. Perhaps we can take a brief recess. And I want to get a picture of the cake before any pieces are cut out of it. Then other people are welcome to take some. [The WG recessed to partake of the cake.] [Alia also distributed some caramels.] [Margaret Cullen noted that she (then Margaret Wasserman) was the AD when the TRILL WG was formed, initially in the INTERNET Area, and Alia who will close the TRILL WG is here now so we have both "bookends".] [Donald: Well, we can just send a message to the IETF 101 Attendees list at the end of the session saying there is still some cake in Palace C, come and get it.] [Session got back underway.] 15 min. TRILL History, Donald Eastlake ------------------------------ Donald: I took this presentation I did on TRILL a few years ago and tweaked it. It still has way too many slides but I'll go fast on the ones people should already know. But it may be interesting to look at them again. See Slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/slides-101-trill-trill-history-01 [Some problems with the .ppt version because animation wasn't working. Switched to PDF version.] Donald: ... ... ... 5 min. Wrap-Up, Chairs --------------- Donald: Any other things people want to bring up for this meeting? If not I will adjourn this meeting, which is the last TRILL meeting. [Applause] Donald: There are blue sheets. I assume everyone has signed them. [inaudible question about presentations] Donald: There is a YouTube video of a presentation I gave a Nanog. It was called the "Great Debate" but I was the only TRILL presenter while several people presented on Shortest Path Bridging. So I felt kind of outnumbered and I don't think I did a very good presentation. If you can't find this on YouTube you should be able to find it on the Nanog website.