SIPCORE - IETF 103 Bangkok 2018 November 08, Thursday 11:20- 12:20, Chitlada 3 Co-Chairs: Jean Mahoney, Brian Rosen Substitute co-chairs for meeting: Nils Ohlmeier, Gonzalo Salguiero AD: Ben Campbell Jabber relay: Ben Campbell Note taker: Roland Jesske Agenda: 05 min - Agenda and WG Status Presenter: Jean Mahoney 45 min - SIP Session Timer Glare Handling Draft: draft-ietf-sipcore-sessiontimer-race Presenter: Christer Holmberg 05 min - Any Other Business/Wrap Up Nils and Gonzalo presented the agenda; there were no changes. Jean Mahoney (remote) presented WG status (https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/slides-103-sipcore-chairs-slides-00); there were no comments. Christer Holmberg presented SIP Session Timer Glare Handling (draft-ietf-sipcore-sessiontimer-race, https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/slides-103-sipcore-session-timer-glare-handling-00). Roland Jesske supported the solution in the slides. Roman Shpount had technical feedback on the slides, but would provide it on list. It was discussed whether a RFC4028bis draft should be created rather than going forward draft-ietf-sipcore-sessiontimer-race. Consensus in the room was that a bis should be created, and tightly scoped to fixing bugs and ambiguities that caused problems in the field. Editorial changes and enhancements were out of scope. Ben Campbell pointed out that the IESG finds it easier to review bis documents that have not been rearranged or heavily wordsmithed. Jean wondered if the WG might find a requirements draft for the bis useful. Response was a strong no. ACTION: Chairs to ask on list whether a RFC4028bis draft should be created instead of going forward draft-ietf-sipcore-sessiontimer-race. DONE 2018 Nov 8. No other business was brought up. Meeting adjourned.