> DetNet Agenda for IETF108 (Virtual) > Version: Jul 25, 2020 > Session 1: Monday, July 27 2020 > 1300-1350 Session II (UTC) > Time Zone Converter: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20200727T130000&p1=1440 > Location: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/108/floor-plan?room=room-7 > Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/108/session/detnet > Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-108-detnet > Meetecho: http://www.meetecho.com/ietf108/detnet > Audio stream: http://mp3.conf.meetecho.com/ietf/ietf1087.m3u > Jabber: http://jabber.ietf.org/logs/detnet > WG ICS: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming.ics?filters=detnet > Session ICS: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/108/sessions/detnet.ics > Available post session: > Recording: > YouTube: > Presentation Start Time (UTC) Duration Information > 1 13:00 10 Title: Intro, WG Status, Draft Status > Presenter: Chairs > Slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-108-detnet-chairs-intro/ Lou Berger presened the slides. No comments or questions. > 2 13:10 10 Title: DetNet Configuration YANG Model - Update > Presenter: Authors > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-detnet-yang-05 > Slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-108-detnet-detnet-configuration-yang-model/ Don Fedyk presented the slides. No comments from the WG. > 3 13:20 10 Title: DetNet OAM > Presenter: Greg Mirsky > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-oam-01 > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mirsky-detnet-ip-oam-02 > Slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-108-detnet-detnet-mpls-oam/ Greg Mirsky presented the slides. Lou Berger: OAM doc has not been updated, what is the plan? Greg Mirsky: We want discussion on MPLS doc first, which supports PREOF, which is important. But we are also working on IP OAM, preparing for WG adoption poll. Lou Berger: What is timeline for IP doc? Ready for adoption? Greg: I just switched from IP OAM to this MPLS work, will switch back to IP after this meeting. Will reach out to chairs if need help. If ready for adoption poll we will let you know. Lou Berger: OK, so we expect to see a comment on next steps on the list. > 4 13:30 10 Title: RAW OAM > Presenter: Fabrice Theoleyre > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-theoleyre-raw-oam-support-03 > Slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-108-detnet-raw-oam/ Fabrice Theoleyre presented the slides. Lou Berger: Chairs asked for this work to be presented today as it contains good material, a portion of which could potentially be brought into this WG, along with Greg's OAM work. Lou Berger: Have you thought about how to split material betweenDetNet and RAW? Anything radio-specific would go in RAW. Fabrice Theoleyre : Don't have a doc ready that is generic enough. Would be good to see if too generic for DetNet. Maybe the generic text could be brought into DetNet OAM, maybe Greg could help. David Black: I like the idea of generic framework, since we mostly talk data plane in DetNet. But we don't want too many drafts. David Black: Dataplane-independent draft on what OAM has to do would definitely be useful. Janos Farkas: I agree that, similar to data plane, it would be good to have a DetNet OAM framework draft, then MPLS OAM, IP OAM, and RAW OAM for the wireless specific aspects. Rick Taylor: As RAW chair, I am pleased to hear people saying this. In conversation wtih Lou, Janos, and Eve, we concluded that there is a lot of value in this doc to be generic enough for DetNet, but we would like to keep RAW specific part in RAW WG. But yes, we don't want too many docs. Lou Berger: So there is support for a generic framework. If anyone is interested in working on this, please put your name in the chat, try to self organize. Carlos Bernardos: proposes to contribute. Georgios Papadopoulos: If I understand, the idea is to work on generic doc for DetNet, then specific doc for RAW WG, right? Lou Berger: Yes. Georgios Papadopoulos: We will put together a draft and send it to the list. Lou Berger: Just submit as an internet draft. > 5 13:40 10 Title: Controller Plane Framework > Presenter: Xuesong Geng > Draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-malis-detnet-controller-plane-framework-04 > Slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/slides-108-detnet-controller-plane-framework/ Xuesong Geng presented the slides. Greg Mirsky: Please clarify: when you discuss OAM, do you refer to "M" as Management or Maintenance? Xuesong Geng: Both should be considered, since based on definition of DetNet controller plane, which deals with both. In that original doc we intended to cover all OAM considerations, so we propose to include both. Greg Mirsky: Historically there is confusion about what M stands for in "OAM". M is Maintenance, which is not a management plane function. It refers to what is configurable, what is exposed. Maintenance, as explained by Fabrice earlier, is a different entity. So it needs to be clarified why you think OAM is part of management plane. Xuesong Geng: Terminology clarification is great here. But whether OAM should be included in management plane, we need input from WG. For this doc we just cover controller plane as in architecture doc, which addresses OAM. But not all parts. Lou Berger: Please discuss on list, great topic, controller plane OAM vs data plane OAM. Then we can discuss adoption on the list. Lou Berger: Thanks for everyone's participation, all feel free to request virtual meetings if they would be helpful. Lou Berger: Session is now closed. Bluesheet: János Farkas (Ericsson) Lou Berger (LabN) Ethan Grossman (Dolby) David Black (Dell EMC) Quan Xiong (ZTE) Andy Malis (Malis Consulting) Dan Romascanu Deborah Brungard (ATT) Don Fedyk (LabN) Jeong-dong Ryoo (ETRI) Yuji Tochio (Fujitsu) Georgios Papadopoulos (IMT Atlantique) Luis M. Contreras (Telefonica) Yeoncheol Ryoo (ETRI) NOTE TAKERS ADD YOUR NAMES HERE (not required): János Farkas Ethan Grossman Lou Berger