LPWAN WG IETF 108
Agenda
Meeting : IETF108 Thursday, July 30, 2020
Venue : Online
Video Link : https://www.meetecho.com/ietf108/lpwan/
Audo Link : http://mp3.conf.meetecho.com/ietf/ietf1084.m3u
Time : Session II 13:00-13:50 UTC (50min)
Location : Room 4
Chairs : Pascal Thubert pthubert@cisco.com
Alexander Pelov a@ackl.io
Responsible AD : Eric Vyncke
Live minutes : https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-108-lpwan
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https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/lpwan/
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[13:00] Administrivia (chairs) [ 5min]
o Note-Well, Scribes, Agenda Bashing
o Status of drafts
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[13:05] draft-ietf-lpwan-schc-over-sigfox (Juan-Carlos Zuniga) [10min]
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[13:15] draft-ietf-lpwan-schc-over-lorawan (Olivier Gimenez) [10min]
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[13:25] draft-ietf-lpwan-schc-over-nbiot (Ana Minaburo) [ 5min]
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[13:30] draft-ietf-lpwan-schc-yang-data-model (Laurent Toutain) [10min]
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[13:40] draft-ietf-lpwan-coap-static-context-hc-15 (Ana Minaburo) [ 5min]
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[13:45] AOB, Adjourn
Minutes
Times in UTC
[13:00] Administrivia (chairs) [ 5min]
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Note-Well, Scribes, Agenda Bashing
o displays agenda
o displays milestones
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Status of drafts
o OAM draft: still there, no progress at his time
[13:03] draft-ietf-lpwan-schc-over-sigfox (Juan-Carlos Zuniga) [10min]
- during hackathon, off-line coding.
- update on the draft
o use of FCN to indicate size of packets/ # of fragments. Will test in next version of PySCHC
- next steps
o interop at Bangkok?
o more fine-tuning
- Laurent: for tests, openSCHC core on a public server, could be used for interop.
- JCZ: Good to know. We will look into that.
- Ivaylo: use of sequence #, means no interleaving?
- JCZ: Sigfox Seq# counter spans over multiple (frag/data) sessions. We can interleve.
[13:10] draft-ietf-lpwan-schc-over-lorawan (Olivier Gimenez) [10min]
- -08 published two weeks ago
- goes through changes in -08
o rework of retransmission timer during the interim meeting
- no comment so far on -08
- outcome of the WGLC?
- Pascal: WGLC is finished, now working on the comments, solving the issues.
- Pascal: -08 could be submitted to IESG for publication, Dominique to do his work as shepherd (write-up + check IPR + request)
- Pascal: will tell Dominique the right way of submitting to IESG
[13:16] draft-ietf-lpwan-schc-over-nbiot (Ana Minaburo) [ 5min]
- shows 3GPP architecture, more complex than that described in RFC8376
- 3 use cases for SCHC depending on NB-IoT data transmission choice (IP, non-IP, NAS)
- JCZ: in case 2, need to transfer context to visited network, complicated?
- Ana: already done for RoHC. Home HLR sends context to visited network.
- JCZ: would be interesting to explain in the draft.
- JCZ: how about SCHC over the top of NB-IoT?
- Ana: this is case 3. SCEF is used to pass the context (??)
- goes on presenting fragmentation
- Pascal: Transfer Blocks, can you explain again?
- Ana: Transfer Block increment is 2 bytes, hence the 16 bits.
- JCZ: 1000 bits not multiple of 16 bits, confusing.
- Ana: need reviewers
- Pascal: LoraWAN authors, could you have a look, compare sections for missing info, etc?
- Ivo: volunteers
- Olivier volunteers, too
- Alex: no hard deadline, in the coming weeks/month.
[13:30] draft-ietf-lpwan-schc-yang-data-model (Laurent Toutain)[10min]
- draft is stable. On GitHub LPWAN repo.
- describes the content of the draft.
- Pascal: what’s the unit of time for timers?
- Laurent: description of field says it’s seconds.
- Alex: will submit to YANG doctors for review
- Laurent reiterates draft is stable, happy with what they have now.
- How about a WGLC to raise attention and bring comments in?
- Pascal: vacation time. Even if we LC now, we will extend the review time into september?
- Pascal: then, why not get feedback from YANG doctors before WGLC?
- Alex: suggests to wait for coap-over-schc to pass IESG
- Alex: how do we get a YANG doctor review?
- Eric: ask for review by YANG doctor. Can help asking for this.
- Alex: shoot for WGLC in Sept.
- Laurent: synchronize with CORECONF.
- Pascal: why?
- Alex: we should not put a dependecy on CORECONF. This doc is self-standing. Let’s ship this one.
[13:43] draft-ietf-lpwan-coap-static-context-hc-15 (Ana Minaburo) [ 5min]
- one DISCUSS remaining to solve. (there were two more, now solved)
- goes over changes from -13 to -15
o better depiction of various ways of using SCHC with CoAP
o clarified uni/bidirectional terminology
- still to work before issuing -16: some comments from B Kaduk
- Pascal: thank a lot to Ana for hard work and to the IESG for the reviews
[13:50] Meeting is adjourned