[{"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "This is the second time I have missed IETF in Vienna.&nbsp;&nbsp;:(<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:00:23Z"}, {"author": "Jim Reid", "text": "Thanks Bob<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:00:33Z"}, {"author": "Stephan Wenger", "text": "Bob, I don't know whether we can upload the updated slides to the data tracker in time.&nbsp;&nbsp;Will the currently uploaded slides do?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:00:59Z"}, {"author": "Stuart Card", "text": "Tnx.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:01:03Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "Stephan, that is where Med put them, and since I am not presenting them now, it is good.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:01:53Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Yes, Jim has refreshed the slides 5 minutes ago<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:01:53Z"}, {"author": "Peter Yee", "text": "Is someone eating on mike?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:01:58Z"}, {"author": "Adam Wiethuechter", "text": "Its Daniels open mic I think<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:02:08Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "My mike is muted.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:02:24Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "Too soft mike.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:02:32Z"}, {"author": "Stuart Card", "text": "All audio levels seem low. All my controls are cranked to max.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:03:24Z"}, {"author": "Stuart Card", "text": "That's better!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:03:48Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "It is whooever is at the meeting room table that was soft.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:04:01Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "Speaking closer to the mic may help, if that was the cause<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:05:08Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "What problem are you experiencing with slides?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:05:44Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "Daniel: make sure you're in presentation mode, not gallery view<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:07:42Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "(people in the room may want to relay via audio if he's not reading)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:08:08Z"}, {"author": "Stephan Wenger", "text": "@Meetecho: a few of us did not see the controls to advance an uploaded and shared slide deck<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:10:49Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "Stephen: that can happen if they moved to the gallery mode (which only shows the video feed)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:11:33Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "Or did they see the slides, but not the controls?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:11:39Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "Those should appear on the bottom and may not be immediately apparent<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:11:51Z"}, {"author": "Stuart Card", "text": "I am stuggling to keep video up while in editing tool, I will catch up.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:12:30Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "Almost for sure we will need an IETF MoC.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:16:22Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "And the discussion in the ASTM calls, we will have to copy wholesale their MoC<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:16:55Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "Then add our piece and get FAA to accept our MoC.&nbsp;&nbsp;Sigh.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:17:43Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "\"MoC\" == ?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:17:51Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "Means of Compliance.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:18:00Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "thanks<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:18:05Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "@Stu: do you see any impact of the \"negative\" ballot on the auth I-D as it requires some registration governed by ASTM rules<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:18:10Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "To the published regulations.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:18:12Z"}, {"author": "Stephan Wenger", "text": "Regarding the ASTM normative reference: have you guys a plan how to make they doc available to the IETF reviewers without charge?&nbsp;&nbsp;It's a hiccup that has come up before<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:19:28Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "And each vendor submits a Declaration of Compliance to the FAA (or other CAA).&nbsp;&nbsp;The shortcut on this is to sight an approved MoC.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:20:01Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "TO get the ASTM doc, IETF will have to enter into an agreement with ASTM.&nbsp;&nbsp;I looked into this 2 years ago, and did not get energy fro IAB for this step.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:20:56Z"}, {"author": "Stephan Wenger", "text": "Liaison relationship?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:22:13Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "Basically.&nbsp;&nbsp;Yes.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:22:25Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "we included in RFC9153 a pointer to a previous version that is available for free<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:22:31Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "I don't know if we need to revive the discussion how to make this available for reviewers<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:23:21Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "Some of the details were included in the doc write-up<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:23:58Z"}, {"author": "Stephan Wenger", "text": "ok.&nbsp;&nbsp;sleeping dogs and all...<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:24:27Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "As long as it is only informative, then this should be OK<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:24:28Z"}, {"author": "Richard Wilhelm", "text": "(btw: thanks for that great explanation of bluetooth 4 and 5 compatibility!)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:24:38Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "It is normative for AUTH<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:24:41Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "This will be a problem for a normative reference<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:24:44Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "info for RID<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:24:53Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Then, Med, we need to plan for it<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:25:04Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "We used to have that same concern with 9153<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:25:16Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "but lets see if there is something we can do more<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:25:31Z"}, {"author": "Stephan Wenger", "text": "So what worked in AVTCORE for a ISO/JPEG spec recently was to find a way to make the ISO spec freely available to those reviewers who request it, with the understanding that it will not be shared.&nbsp;&nbsp;Such was implemented informally.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:26:33Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "This may be useful for communicating with the operator ?? but not even sure about that<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:26:50Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "I will point out that this HIP stuff is valuable for Network Remote ID.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:27:14Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Just wonder why we still need to cope with NAT in 2022... I.e., IPv6 should fix the problem<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:27:29Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "And for Command and Control (C2).&nbsp;&nbsp;I have this in my draft and Stu has tested it.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:27:54Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "you will still need things such as ICE for checking ipv6 connectivity as FW may be on path, \u00c9ric.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:28:24Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "For DRIP NRID and C2, it SHOULD be all IPv6.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:28:28Z"}, {"author": "Stuart Card", "text": "In room mic level extremely low.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:29:08Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "But they may be able to show Interop in action, just not the code?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:34:19Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Indeed, Bob, this would be useful to check whether specs are clear enough<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:34:53Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "Which part of the spec are you referring to, @eric?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:36:07Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "Perhaps at the ASTM F38 meeting the end of May at Griffiths Airpot UAS test site.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:36:21Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "@Med, what Andrei has implemented<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:36:49Z"}, {"author": "Jim Reid", "text": "Sorry about the mic level Stuart. It was too far away from my mouth.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:36:57Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "We will see if we can coordinate with Andrei for remote testing.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:36:59Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "As soon as I get rid-18 well along, I will be very focused on auth and registries (but I also need to move on crowd-source as we have a real client).<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:38:38Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "Thanks, \u00c9ric<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:38:51Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "Not sure there is a value in having multiple documents. This will just induce more work<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:42:30Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "@Bob, when do you expect -18 to be out with the pending issue fixed?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:43:55Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "I am targetting end of next week.&nbsp;&nbsp;I hope to have IANA comments to include those, or those may end up making a -19 ver.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:45:36Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "I have thoughts about this multiple HHIT per RAA/HDA issue....<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:51:47Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "It was part of my initial thinking.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:52:00Z"}, {"author": "Stuart Card", "text": "By \"interim\", Adam means not just another draft rev, but an interim DRIP _meeting_.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:52:10Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "Indeed, Adam<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:52:15Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "Andrei's slot wasn't also shortened this time<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:52:44Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "@Stu: Point taken, but we need also to make use of the mailing list<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:54:28Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "PKI products deal with this,&nbsp;&nbsp;It is a known challenge.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:55:30Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "And DANE also works with it.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:55:47Z"}, {"author": "Mohamed Boucadair", "text": "That would be great, Adam<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:57:37Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Thanks to the chairs &amp; delegates<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:59:26Z"}, {"author": "Stuart Card", "text": "Thanks all, esp. in-room delegates!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T12:59:34Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "Bye for now!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T13:00:54Z"}]