[{"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "Geoff, you almost ready?
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:01:43Z"}, {"author": "Geoff Huston", "text": "yup
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:01:59Z"}, {"author": "Tony Li", "text": "We could use more notetakers
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:03:35Z"}, {"author": "Job Snijders", "text": "Has Geoff considered the privacy implications of an ability to perform geographic triangulation based on profiling packet fragment drops?! ;-)
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:15:07Z"}, {"author": "Jeffrey Haas", "text": "https://tools.wordtothewise.com/rfc/rfc7045#section-2.2
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:19:45Z"}, {"author": "Jeffrey Haas", "text": "Too many people spent too many years in various places saying \"these things are bad, throw them away\"
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:20:09Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Alas...
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:20:20Z"}, {"author": "Joao Damas", "text": "job: yes, and where an experiment might endanger someone (e.g. fetching an .xxx name from a place where those things are frowned upon), we take care to not expose people to it
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:22:24Z"}, {"author": "Joao Damas", "text": "other than that things don't go any further than AS level
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:22:40Z"}, {"author": "Toerless Eckert", "text": "will the IEPG slides be published on datatracker ?
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:28:37Z"}, {"author": "Yoshiro Yoneya", "text": "I don't think so. They are usually uploaded on IEPG site. I see two slides at this moment.
https://www.iepg.org/2022-03-20-ietf113/
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:29:42Z"}, {"author": "Chris Morrow", "text": "yes, normally they end up as a targz that geoff puts on the iepg.org site.
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:30:00Z"}, {"author": "Geoff Huston", "text": "I put the slides up at www.iepg.org - if/when I get em! (hint hint)
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:30:06Z"}, {"author": "Jean-Michel Combes", "text": "No more mic
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:30:22Z"}, {"author": "Joao Damas", "text": "speaker's mic seems to be out
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:30:29Z"}, {"author": "Chris Morrow", "text": "i'm attempting (for geoff) to get the other missing slides in place :)
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:30:51Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Is the mike doing better ?
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:31:22Z"}, {"author": "Jean-Michel Combes", "text": "works fine
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:31:29Z"}, {"author": "Chris Morrow", "text": "better ;)
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:31:29Z"}, {"author": "Chris Morrow", "text": "tnx!
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:31:31Z"}, {"author": "Joao Damas", "text": "this is good again, yes!
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:31:33Z"}, {"author": "Toerless Eckert", "text": "Yoshiro: thanks. added URL to notes.
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:33:04Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "@Geoff: Mail sent a few hours back :-P
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:34:00Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "Apolgies all for audio fun -- batteries died in both microphoes...
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:34:25Z"}, {"author": "Geoff Huston", "text": "thanks! I'll put em up soonest
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:34:38Z"}, {"author": "Joao Damas", "text": "is it even worth charging the routers if you know the end user is still not going to get the packet?
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:37:51Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "Do you hear Ignas ?
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:39:22Z"}, {"author": "Tony Li", "text": "Yes
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:39:29Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "Apolgies again all -- this is the first meeting, and there are still some teething troubles. Also, it is night, so it took some time to find AV people with batteries, etc.
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:40:25Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "It should have occured to me that I need a USB-C adapter, but \u00af_(\u30c4)_/\u00af
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:40:45Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "But you have your timer ;-)
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:42:08Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "I do. It's very cool! Especially if I remember to start it :-P
", "time": "2022-03-20T17:42:30Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "\"the network doesn't discriminate between good and bad bits\"... wasn't it the purpose of the E-bit ?
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:11:42Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": ":-P
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:11:51Z"}, {"author": "Tony Li", "text": "People aren't using that! :)
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:12:12Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": ":-O
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:12:19Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": ".... but it says \"MUST\"!!!1111!!! [sob]
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:12:51Z"}, {"author": "Jean-Michel Combes", "text": "IAB work as this is impacting IETF's goal to provide an Internet for all?
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:15:04Z"}, {"author": "Geoff Huston", "text": "https://stats.labs.apnic.net/rpki/XA
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:22:15Z"}, {"author": "Chris Morrow", "text": "doesn't cloudflare provide an unsigned and signed prefix set? (as a potential beacon)
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:23:26Z"}, {"author": "Geoff Huston", "text": "yes, it does Chris, and it is hosted on their CDN
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:23:56Z"}, {"author": "Chris Morrow", "text": "oh :) ok.
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:24:04Z"}, {"author": "Geoff Huston", "text": "which means that some of the \"noise\" from transit behaviours is filtered out
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:24:28Z"}, {"author": "Chris Morrow", "text": "your 2nd table of data, I guess all of the tables have this, \"rpki validates\" - means that the prefix(es) seen in the table COULD be validated if the originator chose to publish.
Correct? (so 53.17% of NorthAmerican routes COULD be OV validated if published roa existed)
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:26:13Z"}, {"author": "Geoff Huston", "text": "This URL is a count of end users - and the percentages here are the proporition of users who cannot reach a destination when the only way to get there is via an ROV-=invalid route
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:27:28Z"}, {"author": "Geoff Huston", "text": "the count of routes is different
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:27:54Z"}, {"author": "Chris Morrow", "text": "OH! ok, that's a different view than I was thinking it was :) thanks!
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:28:39Z"}, {"author": "Jeffrey Haas", "text": "The underlying question is whether a receiver that has a less specific validated origin path has any upstreams that may be using more specifics that aren't validated. It'd be nice to be able to tell that on your routes that you get what the upstreams' policies are.
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:33:29Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "What about large corporations having a /32 (or shorter) from a RIR and injecting sub-prefixes everywhere ?
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:42:37Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "(the /32 being IPv6 obviously ;-) )
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:43:54Z"}, {"author": "Jean-Michel Combes", "text": "Thanks for the presentations!
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:50:43Z"}, {"author": "Melchior Aelmans", "text": "thanks all
", "time": "2022-03-20T18:50:45Z"}]