[{"author": "Rajeev RK", "text": "Now i end up wondering, *What* did i miss by joining late....<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:02:19Z"}, {"author": "Rajeev RK", "text": ":satisfied:<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:02:35Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": ":smile:<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:02:36Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "Free dialup account<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:02:54Z"}, {"author": "Rajeev RK", "text": "@jorge had that 20 years ago, even including the *free* un-hidaeble toolbar that qualified me for the free service....<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:03:59Z"}, {"author": "Rajeev RK", "text": "maybe 25 years ago... (Man, i feel old...)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:04:18Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "Welcome, the room is still getting organized<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:04:53Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "muahaha<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:04:59Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "Only one camera ?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:05:53Z"}, {"author": "Rajeev RK", "text": "Yes, only one camera, and this in one of the *Few* meetings where the audience cam would actually have a sizeable audience to show...<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:07:01Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "I see at least five cameras in the room, I don't know how they're wired up though.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:07:23Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "There appear to be plenty of cameras in the room<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:07:27Z"}, {"author": "Thom Wiggers", "text": "A robot is chairing?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:07:54Z"}, {"author": "Rajeev RK", "text": "can someone who's in-person follow up with someone to get a few more cams turned on so we can see the audience...<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:08:14Z"}, {"author": "MichaelRichardson", "text": "Many of us want to know if anyone remembers \"These are a few of my favourite protocols\", sung to the Sound of Music famous song about favourite things.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:08:19Z"}, {"author": "Thom Wiggers", "text": "I for one welcome our robot overlords<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:08:29Z"}, {"author": "MichaelRichardson", "text": "maybe meetecho will pan the cameras.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:08:35Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "We have 6 cameras in there :)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:08:48Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "We'll switch depending on context<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:08:56Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "awesome<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:09:04Z"}, {"author": "Thom Wiggers", "text": "Plenty of people with red \u2018no photographs\u2019 lanyards<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:09:09Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "... which is not a problem unless one zooms in<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:09:44Z"}, {"author": "Rajeev RK", "text": "Aah...<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:10:02Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": ":clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:10:17Z"}, {"author": "Bob Hinden", "text": "Kudos to what Lars just said!!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:10:27Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "Very readable when you're just a few centimeters from the screen, like all of us at home<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:10:37Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "IETF is mature !!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:10:57Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "Reading glasses are a superpower<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:11:17Z"}, {"author": "francesca", "text": "if anybody wants a comment relayed to the mic and can't use their audio setup, please preface the comment with \"mic:\" <br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:11:59Z"}, {"author": "Samuel Weiler", "text": "is there any real-time minuting or captioning for this plenary?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:12:44Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "there is a hedgedoc but not sure if anybody is writing<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:13:31Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "(@sam no, but it is something I would love to see something like that, it seems it's feasible with reasonable tech these days)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:13:56Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "(@sam eg - <a href=\"https://www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2020/01/23/offline-speech-recognition-on-raspberry-pi-4-with-respeaker/\" rel=\"nofollow\">https://www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2020/01/23/offline-speech-recognition-on-raspberry-pi-4-with-respeaker/</a> - but I have a personal pending project to do this, but haven't done it yet)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:14:44Z"}, {"author": "francesca", "text": "the youtube subtitles work reasonably well usually<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:14:45Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "<a href=\"https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-113-plenary\" rel=\"nofollow\">https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-113-plenary</a> pretty empty so far.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:14:47Z"}, {"author": "npd", "text": "I appreciate having a truly hybrid meeting, where even some of the hosts are remote<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:15:00Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "Commitment extends to short host speeches, superb<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:15:06Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "That was once of the nicest host speeches.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:15:23Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "Well done to Huawei for the long-term commitment to the IETF<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:15:33Z"}, {"author": "Cullen Jennings", "text": "Kudos to Huawei on excellent speech. <br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:16:05Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "The YouTube stream does, I believe<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:17:38Z"}, {"author": "Rajeev RK", "text": "Yayyy, India finally made it to the stats in online participants<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:17:49Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "(was in response to the live captioning, sorry for the noise!)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:17:56Z"}, {"author": "hta", "text": "No Chinese physical attendance.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:17:57Z"}, {"author": "-Dhruv-Dhody-", "text": "India has been in pie chart for a while now<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:18:16Z"}, {"author": "npd", "text": "uk disproportionately attending in person<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:18:32Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "next time there are two pie charts to compare, please use the same color legend across both pies<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:18:55Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "Yes, definitely<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:19:04Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "probably hard to do with typical excel charts.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:19:17Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "but yes, please, to avoid confusion.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:19:27Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "sounds like you're saying that you shouldn't use excel :)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:19:46Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "that's what I heard, yes<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:19:58Z"}, {"author": "Mirja K\u00fchlewind", "text": "maybe we shouldn't do last minute slides ;-)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:20:07Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "Now you're being silly, Mirja<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:20:20Z"}, {"author": "Carlos Mart\u00ednez", "text": "I miss the meetings. I hope Philly goes forward hybrid like this one.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:20:23Z"}, {"author": "Chris Lemmons", "text": "I'm pretty sure slides at the IETF are required to be last minute. :)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:20:29Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "last-minute is the best time to do everything?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:20:32Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "The buzz phrase is \"just in time\"<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:20:47Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "well, we don't have pechakucha this time<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:20:48Z"}, {"author": "Carlos Mart\u00ednez", "text": "Two hours before talk time count as \"well ahead of time\" ? :-)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:20:58Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "so ietf chair powerpoint karaoke is second best thing?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:21:02Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "this meeting has been going great so far from a remote participation experience<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:21:03Z"}, {"author": "Rajeev RK", "text": "Maybe I'm a newbie, but isnt it a tradition for IETF presentations at the meetings do have at least 2-3 changes Vs. the version submitted in advance?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:21:10Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "spend five minutes at the start \"no, this is the wrong slide deck\"<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:21:32Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "we hear you<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:21:48Z"}, {"author": "Bob Hinden", "text": "Rajeev:&nbsp;&nbsp;Not so much since we started using Meetecho for sharing slides.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:22:09Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "clap clap clap death to svn<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:22:23Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "Yeah this is great<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:22:36Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "Bob: chairs are still very able to forget to upload the latest slide deck<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:22:50Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "Nono, @github is someone else<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:22:53Z"}, {"author": "Carlos Mart\u00ednez", "text": "+1 @Rich :-)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:25:32Z"}, {"author": "Shivan Sahib", "text": "Martin's github template for I-Ds is great but it would be amazing if we could have a sharelatex/overleaf type tool for I-D authoring<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:25:48Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "If you want something like that, you're gonna have to do the initial work because the common case seems to be markdown and xml.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:27:04Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "And the tools team has limited resources.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:27:30Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "@Shivan Better still, a basic Word option to reduce the non-content related effort needed to write I-Ds<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:27:34Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "I am here virtually<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:27:48Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "*waves*<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:27:58Z"}, {"author": "Shivan Sahib", "text": "Rich: oh I'm not complaining! Big thanks to the Tools team for everything they do<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:28:02Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "Hazzah to Adrian!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:28:09Z"}, {"author": "Jeffrey Haas", "text": "Many thanks to Adrian and Eliot for taking on work that is often contentious and thankless.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:28:24Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "Martin did his stuff as a volunteer effort, not on the tools team. :)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:28:33Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "+<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:28:33Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "Yes, thanks to both Adrian and Eliot.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:28:36Z"}, {"author": "sftcd", "text": "I've only been called Adrian twice this week so far:-)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:28:44Z"}, {"author": "francesca", "text": "Thank you Adrian! And thank you Eliot! <br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:28:55Z"}, {"author": "Robert Wilton", "text": "Thank you Adrian for all your work as ISE, and welcome Eliot!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:29:04Z"}, {"author": "Shivan Sahib", "text": "Rich: yes I know!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:29:49Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "sftcd: why, because you're someone from the british isles who's not<br/>English?&nbsp;&nbsp;(Hopefully I got that right...)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:29:49Z"}, {"author": "Valery Smyslov", "text": "Thank you, Adrian!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:30:04Z"}, {"author": "sftcd", "text": "@kaduk: because of how Adrian mis-spells his surname I guess, it's an ongoing thing<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:30:31Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "You mean you're not brothers?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:30:43Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "Damn. TIL<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:30:51Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "please repeat for the remote folks -- we can't hear<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:31:46Z"}, {"author": "jhoyla", "text": "He's inaudible in the room too<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:31:49Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "Jared is magic<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:32:08Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "He said that there was something missing on the slide, but it was not in fact missing.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:32:16Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "(He == Lars)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:32:44Z"}, {"author": "David Schinazi", "text": "Jared that's some quality trolling<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:32:44Z"}, {"author": "npd", "text": "in meetecho the slides are very readable :)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:32:44Z"}, {"author": "Christian Huitema", "text": "I see that the IAB tradition of having a nice dinner and wine before the plenary has been sustained.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:33:13Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "If anyone wants to chat with me about the GWG, please just reach out.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:33:21Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "You can of course use Meetecho on your device in the room too without a problem<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:33:28Z"}, {"author": "pardue", "text": "PEBIETFCAIABC<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:33:41Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "now we all know your password<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:33:58Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "NANOG asks speakers to use 22 pt font<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:34:01Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "nothing less than that<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:34:09Z"}, {"author": "John Scudder", "text": "magenta comic sans, too?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:34:18Z"}, {"author": "Rajeev RK", "text": "Dont forget Italics.....<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:34:35Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "what does 22pt mean when your slides are projected at an unknown scale?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:34:36Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Colin's background makes him look like he's being interviewed on the BBC.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:34:43Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "@scudder <a href=\"https://medium.com/your-brand/comic-sans-is-better-for-attention-3525fcbe204c\" rel=\"nofollow\">https://medium.com/your-brand/comic-sans-is-better-for-attention-3525fcbe204c</a><br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:34:59Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "The 3x30 rule?&nbsp;&nbsp;No more than 30 slides; no more than 30 words per slide; no less than 30 point?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:35:00Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "8/10, add a pineapple.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:35:05Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "it's his camera, which is _serious_<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:35:09Z"}, {"author": "Samuel Weiler", "text": "@Pete, or he's performing an NPR Tiny Desk concert<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:35:20Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "A number of remotes are using a bookcase for their background.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:35:26Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "that background is IRL<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:35:49Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "Makes us look intelectual<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:35:54Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "depth of field is optical, not software<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:36:21Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "It's like he's a university professor or something<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:36:23Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": ":-)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:36:40Z"}, {"author": "Shivan Sahib", "text": "need to get myself a bookcase wallpaper<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:36:49Z"}, {"author": "jhoyla", "text": "@Yoav, I discovered you can buy books by the yard (or even by the metre<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:37:06Z"}, {"author": "jhoyla", "text": ")<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:37:13Z"}, {"author": "Rajeev RK", "text": "Thankfully, i have a greenscreen, so i have choices of bookcases galore<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:37:22Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "by the meter in a yard sale<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:37:23Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "A yard sales???<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:37:23Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "If he steps away, you can read the titles -- definitely not meter ware<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:37:37Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "or by the foot in a boot sale<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:37:47Z"}, {"author": "jhoyla", "text": "\ud83d\ude02<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:37:48Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "<a href=\"https://www.thebookbundler.com/collections/books-by-the-color-decorative-books-bundles\" rel=\"nofollow\">https://www.thebookbundler.com/collections/books-by-the-color-decorative-books-bundles</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;used by decorators.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:38:11Z"}, {"author": "pardue", "text": "i always thought it was codes print<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:40:49Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "code | enscript -2r<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:41:55Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "I didn't know Margaret was being a tools person. Cool.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:42:03Z"}, {"author": "Cullen Jennings", "text": "What is the differences from Global Host to Global Supporter ?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:43:30Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "Metropole again...<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:43:42Z"}, {"author": "Jeffrey Haas", "text": "London Metropole: you are in a maze of twisty conference rooms, all alike.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:44:07Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": ":)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:44:12Z"}, {"author": "jhoyla", "text": "Seoul!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:44:21Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "*chants back to Japan*<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:44:37Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "@Cullen: I believe Hosts are per meeting.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:44:48Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "need to use the yen I have :-)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:44:49Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "I miss the lilting calls of \"you want maasaage\"<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:45:00Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "Seoul I know posed some unique challenges regarding the internet connectivity<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:46:17Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "(last time at least)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:46:29Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Why is ICANN not on the list of donors?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:46:29Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "They have money, yes?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:46:41Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "Seoul also has problems with local attendance, which makes a loss likely<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:46:47Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "live-transferring slide control, fancy<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:47:35Z"}, {"author": "Shivan Sahib", "text": "I did that today! it was cool<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:48:17Z"}, {"author": "John Levine", "text": "@pete ICANN's process to give away TLD auction money is stalled permanently as far as I can tell<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:50:12Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "So they're just piling it up?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:50:55Z"}, {"author": "Theresa Enghardt", "text": "I am slightly confused by the \"we will have hybrid meetings for a while\". We have had remote participants for a long time, and surely we're not going back to supporting them worse than we do now?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:50:57Z"}, {"author": "John Levine", "text": "sitting there in a checking account as far as I can tell<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:51:13Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "+1<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:51:14Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "@reese: Worth a Q at the mic.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:51:37Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "@Theresa - I think it's a forward looking comment re: COVID-19 only, the remote tooling won't be getting worse :-)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:51:41Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "I think \"hybrid\" in this case means \"charging remote participants\" and waiving in-person requirements for NOC and leadership.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:51:48Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "the key question is whose checking account.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:51:48Z"}, {"author": "Mirja K\u00fchlewind", "text": "I guess in this context \"hybrid\" means less income due to less in-person participants<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:51:55Z"}, {"author": "npd", "text": "+1 Theresa, we should recognize that it's hybrid meetings forever<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:51:58Z"}, {"author": "Theresa Enghardt", "text": "Right, makes sense<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:52:02Z"}, {"author": "John Levine", "text": "Ask me later, I can tell you more than you want to know<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:52:08Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "just a reminder, if you want your question asked at the MIC please do MIC: QUESTION<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:52:39Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "otherwise many of us here can comment on the goals :-)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:52:52Z"}, {"author": "Bob Hinden", "text": "It will be interesting to see if in person attendance ever gets back to what it used to be.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:52:55Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "@Bob I expect it will return<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:53:03Z"}, {"author": "John C Klensin", "text": "@Bob: I expect it will depend somewhat on location.&nbsp;&nbsp;To some degree, it alwaays has, but I'd expect large differences.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:53:42Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "we had a number of remote attendees before the pandemic, now they are closer to first-class attendees by necessity<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:54:10Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "I heard this week that many people wanted to return to BA, AR as they liked the venue - but I know it also posed some challenges due to how we bring so much equipment in + out<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:54:29Z"}, {"author": "John Scudder", "text": "\"Bad Attitude, Artificial Reality\"? ;-)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:54:58Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "It used to be that you couldn't be effective when you were remote. You couldn't chair a meeting (I've seen it tried), and even commenting at the mic was weird and usually came too late, when the discussion moved on.&nbsp;&nbsp;The experience this time is very different.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:55:08Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "Too bad I moved in 1996<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:55:09Z"}, {"author": "pardue", "text": "zero trust is the future of Internet<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:55:21Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "(and it counts as import/export - and even if the net is 0 - there may be many fees along the way)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:55:25Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "ten hours of flying to end up in the same timezone was kinda mind boggling.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:55:41Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "I miss flying...<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:56:29Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "but you can't get better steak than there<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:56:36Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "And malbecs<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:56:50Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "right<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:56:56Z"}, {"author": "Valery Smyslov", "text": "+1<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:57:05Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "and the ice cream<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:57:22Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "we should try Mendoza<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:57:24Z"}, {"author": "John C Klensin", "text": "Can one miss flying but prefer to never encounter another airport again?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:57:33Z"}, {"author": "Donald Eastlake", "text": "There is no reason for the Trust to not incorporate. I have recommended this for years.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:57:45Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "that seems internally consistent<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:57:46Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "definitely<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:57:47Z"}, {"author": "jhoyla", "text": "I think that's called flying without wings :P <br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:57:49Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "draft for teletransport services<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:57:56Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "there are concerns about changing to a corp; upcoming slides mention them.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:58:13Z"}, {"author": "Thom Wiggers", "text": "IETF chartered planes<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:58:19Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "It's currently taking a very long time to create and get a 501(c)3 validated.&nbsp;&nbsp;So, this is not a quick change even if this happens.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:58:20Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "I said earlier this week to someone: wouldn't it be great if we could cap all flight times to ~~30-60 mins regardless of distance?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:58:25Z"}, {"author": "jhoyla", "text": "Isn't the point of Delaware registration to reduce transparency? <br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:58:40Z"}, {"author": "pardue", "text": "now that's my kind of charter discussion<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:58:45Z"}, {"author": "BEHCET SARIKAYA", "text": "so IETF Trust chair should be in Virginia?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:58:46Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "Bring back the Concorde<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:58:49Z"}, {"author": "Richard Scheffenegger", "text": "40 min is the half-orbit time on earth - doable from coastal cities...<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:59:03Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "bang path with shorter flights<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:59:08Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "I thought \"they\" were testing a new supersonic passenger craft<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:59:08Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "@jhoyla no.&nbsp;&nbsp;delaware has lots of rules written to make it obvious what you can/cant do.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:59:10Z"}, {"author": "Rob Austein", "text": "Not really reducing transparency.&nbsp;&nbsp;More about corporate-friendly state law and judges<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:59:10Z"}, {"author": "Thom Wiggers", "text": "jhoyla: I believe no corporate taxes<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:59:19Z"}, {"author": "John Levine", "text": "@ted c(3) validation is retroactive to application date, we can do this in parallel<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:59:24Z"}, {"author": "Richard Scheffenegger", "text": "includes 20 min of free-fall time... better than some \"fun\" providers...<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:59:41Z"}, {"author": "jhoyla", "text": "@Rich Salz I was under the impression that if you want to own things anonymously you went to Delaware. <br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T16:59:55Z"}, {"author": "John Levine", "text": "@jhpyla trust is non-profit, does not pay taxes anywhere<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:00:05Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "@John&nbsp;&nbsp;you're taking personally liability and the risk that it might fail?&nbsp;&nbsp;Or you expect your insurance cover to handle the transition failure?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:00:28Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "@John put another way, what's the rush?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:01:07Z"}, {"author": "John Levine", "text": "our insurance is about $1M. If we lost a case for more than that, we trustees are schrod<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:01:09Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "Delaware is not tax-free.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:01:18Z"}, {"author": "John Levine", "text": "the trust is a non-profit<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:01:34Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "If you want anonymity, you go to places like Isle of Mann, Bermuda, etc.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:01:35Z"}, {"author": "John Levine", "text": "it doesn't pay taxes now<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:01:40Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "@John I would tackle the IANA marks issue first, but it is your folks' call.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:01:47Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "Thanks Jared and Ben!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:01:48Z"}, {"author": "Jason Livingood", "text": "Delaware is fairly easy/quick/low cost for incorporations - one reason it is so widely used.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:01:56Z"}, {"author": "John Levine", "text": "@ted they're not unrelated<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:01:59Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": "you never get to know Jared :blush:<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:02:31Z"}, {"author": "Donald Eastlake", "text": "@jhoyla Nope. If you want anonymity, better to try Nevada if you want a US State, or Lichenstein or something outside the US. Advantage of Delaware is very stable and reliable treatment of corporations.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:02:33Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "Among other things Delaware has only two layers of state courts (trial and supreme) rather than three (trial, appeals, and supreme) which makes any court cases under state law substantially less complicated.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:02:45Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "You have strong opinions, but that's okay, because they're right.<br/>&lt;ducks&gt;<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:02:47Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "And they have judges well acquianted with biz rules.&nbsp;&nbsp;The \"chancery\" court.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:02:47Z"}, {"author": "Jorge Amodio", "text": ":wave:<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:03:15Z"}, {"author": "Victor Kuarsingh", "text": "Thanks Ben and Jared for your service<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:03:38Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "Yes, thanks Jared and Ben<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:03:55Z"}, {"author": "francesca", "text": "Thank you Ben and Jared!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:04:01Z"}, {"author": "cabo", "text": ":clap:<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:04:17Z"}, {"author": "cabo", "text": "Oh.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:04:23Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "Thanks, all!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:04:39Z"}, {"author": "Mirja K\u00fchlewind", "text": "Thanks Ben and Jared!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:05Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "Good catch, Lars!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:21Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "Thank you, Ben &amp; Martin!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:24Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": ":-)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:32Z"}, {"author": "Samuel Weiler", "text": "hey, he can read THIS slide<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:34Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "a reminder that transport wants to take credit for everything ;)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:39Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "so thankless we forget which area you're directing<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:41Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "Thank you Ben and Martin<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:43Z"}, {"author": "BEHCET SARIKAYA", "text": "Ben for IETF Chair next<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:43Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "yet the packets ..<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:49Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "ben++<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:51Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "kaduk: thanks for your work in the sec area!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:54Z"}, {"author": "Thomas Fossati", "text": "thank you Ben, you'll be missed<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:55Z"}, {"author": "Jeffrey Haas", "text": "Thanks, Martin. The \"odds were in your favor\".<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:57Z"}, {"author": "Robert Wilton", "text": "Thank you Martin and Ben!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:05:57Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "clap clap clap<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:06:03Z"}, {"author": "francesca", "text": "Thank you Ben and Martin! :clap: :clap: :clap: <br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:06:05Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "+1000 for Ben<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:06:06Z"}, {"author": "Mirja K\u00fchlewind", "text": "Thanks Ben (other Ben) and Martin!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:06:09Z"}, {"author": "John C Klensin", "text": "I assumed it was just a routing error.&nbsp;&nbsp;But thanks to both of you.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:06:16Z"}, {"author": "Valery Smyslov", "text": "Thank you Ben and Jared!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:06:51Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Thanks John. Lovely.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:08:19Z"}, {"author": "Rajeev RK", "text": ":pray:<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:08:29Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "Would be better if there was an option for a separate credit card as many expense the fees.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:10:09Z"}, {"author": "Michael StJohns", "text": "Yes!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:10:17Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "+1, Kathleen -- was about to say the same.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:10:19Z"}, {"author": "Victor Kuarsingh", "text": "Agree<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:10:23Z"}, {"author": "Jeffrey Haas", "text": "The \"donate to ietf\" option would be nice if decoupled from registration. Having it in the main registration complicates expense reports if you'd want to personally donate.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:10:30Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "ietf.org - donate now - top right<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:10:34Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "However, they do seem to have opened up direct donations again.&nbsp;&nbsp;That disappeared for a year or three.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:10:37Z"}, {"author": "Jeffrey Haas", "text": "aha, thanks sean<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:10:41Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "+1 Paul<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:10:58Z"}, {"author": "Jake Holland", "text": "Is there a way to do a feature request for that btw?&nbsp;&nbsp;I'd love to have a way to put in a different credit card for the donation<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:11:03Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "Is that how I got my dot?&nbsp;&nbsp;I misbehaved?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:11:04Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Moriarty", "text": "Thanks, Sean<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:11:08Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "np - give early, give often, get matched ;)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:11:30Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "@Jake: email to tools-discuss or open an issue on GitHub like Robert said.&nbsp;&nbsp;It's a datatracker issue.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:11:35Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "I I liked it better when we used to tear our dots from the badge and hand them over.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:11:42Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Very \"rending of clothes\" like.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:12:00Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "...sch\u00f6n gemacht Lars, nun ist es kein Geheimnis mehr...<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:12:02Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "The glue tends to be single-use, unfortunately<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:12:11Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "I find it odd that the Endowment's old web site (sustainietf.org) redirects to the main IETF page instead of the endowment page.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:12:13Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "Mike, same comment: open an issue or email<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:12:43Z"}, {"author": "Lee-Berkeley Shaw", "text": "Thanks for flagging it, Mike. I'm sure we can update that. It should redirect to the Endowment page<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:13:44Z"}, {"author": "kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl", "text": "Lars is yellow/blue color-blind?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:13:45Z"}, {"author": "Roman Danyliw", "text": "Happy to swap into TSV from SEC.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:13:51Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "Reminder: if you want to have us bring question to the MIC please type MIC: &lt;question&gt; and I'll ask on your behalf<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:13:58Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "I don't think we get to discuss Lars's private medical info in the Plenary.&nbsp;&nbsp;:-)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:14:11Z"}, {"author": "Wes Hardaker", "text": "well, that slide doesn't exactly make a ton sense to follow quickly.&nbsp;&nbsp;But once you realize the labels go with colors and not columns...<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:14:13Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "the layout of that slide is confusing even if you aren't color-blind<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:14:25Z"}, {"author": "pardue", "text": "these slides are like the worst CAPTCHAs ever<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:14:50Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Watch: They'll get a bunch of questions and say, \"Oh, that's a question for the IESG.\"<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:15:00Z"}, {"author": "jhoyla", "text": "How much beer was consumed before you went up on stage? <br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:15:08Z"}, {"author": "Michael StJohns", "text": "cynic<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:15:09Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": ";)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:15:18Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "lucas: challenge accepted<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:15:23Z"}, {"author": "Mike Bishop", "text": "But now that we're quasi-remote, they don't have the excuse that the IESG isn't at a mic.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:15:37Z"}, {"author": "pardue", "text": "please select all members that have published an experimental RFC<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:15:49Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "somebody remote should be careful with muting...<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:16:29Z"}, {"author": "Yoav Nir", "text": "Everyone remote should be careful with muting<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:17:01Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "Lars-Johan is easier to find because he's very tall....<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:17:08Z"}, {"author": "jhoyla", "text": "Your friendly neighbourhood IAB member :P <br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:17:33Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "Local, meaning within 50mi/75KM?&nbsp;&nbsp;Hey Jared!!!!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:17:48Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "A diver's set of candidates? I'm a diver!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:18:05Z"}, {"author": "jhoyla", "text": "Speak now or forever hold your peace :P <br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:18:21Z"}, {"author": "Brian Trammell", "text": "the short host speech was a good omen<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:18:33Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "They held their peace. Bye all.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:18:36Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "a DRIVERS SEAT OF CANDIDATES<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:18:39Z"}, {"author": "John Scudder", "text": "candied dates?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:19:00Z"}, {"author": "Rich Salz", "text": "was anyone in the room drinking?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:19:48Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "*this area of the chat is reserved for so-called dad jokes*<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:19:51Z"}, {"author": "Jared Mauch", "text": "@Rich not alchohol<br/>", "time": "2022-03-23T17:20:04Z"}]