[{"author": "dkg", "text": "amazing<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:35:05Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "That last slide was illegible here.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:35:42Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "is there a pointer to the underlying file that we can render locally?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:36:01Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "The last slide was illegible in the room as well.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:37:09Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "someone else is speaking in the room<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:37:27Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "but we can't hear it remotely<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:37:30Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "so responses like \"exactly\" aren't helpful remotely<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:37:38Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "repetition into the mic would be appreciated<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:37:50Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "Hans-Jorg Happel; he's top of the mic queue<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:38:20Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "Looks like the mic is turned off (or maybe batteries are over?)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:38:20Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "Pinging the AV team<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:38:24Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Can you hear Hans-J\u00f6rg now?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:38:32Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "I was able to hear him talking earlier<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:38:32Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "Yes<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:38:35Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "i could hear Hans-J\u00f6rg -- but he was responding to someone else in the room who i could not hear<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:38:53Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Ah, maybe you couldn't hear Bron.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:39:11Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "I can also hear Bron.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:39:36Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Weirdness.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:39:45Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "were they the only two talkng the whole time?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:40:00Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "think so except my interjection<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:40:13Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "(Actually, Meetecho notices if you are on the local network and lists you as such, but I'll bet Hans-J\u00f6rg is on a VPN.)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:40:48Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "ah.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:40:58Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "yes, can hear<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:41:08Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "I can hear Alexey.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:41:09Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "Pete -- ah, network-based surveillance :)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:41:25Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "@dkg: Yes only two people are speaking at a time.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:41:26Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "(Once the person is talking, one of the chairs should remove them from the queue.)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:42:18Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "That would be lovely. :)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:48:16Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Blue...no, red.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:54:18Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "@meetecho: Jim Fenton reports an echo.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:58:34Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "Pete: we'll look into it<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:59:40Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "I'm pretty sure it's just echo from the room mic, not really loud but audible through my headphones<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T13:59:59Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "Jim: yes, that's what happening, so we're working to compensate<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:00:38Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "We can't lower the gain of those mics too much or remote participants will get a low volume feed from the room<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:01:06Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "so is there a particular return code when the user tries to delete the last calendar?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:01:32Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "you *can* fail to have an inbox on read-only IMAP stores<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:01:52Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "@meetecho Thanks, I know echo suppression is difficult when delay times are as long as this. I'm estimating 250-500 msec echo delay.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:02:25Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "(I'm in California)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:02:49Z"}, {"author": "Barry Leiba", "text": "RFC 3501 Section 5.1: \"The case-insensitive mailbox name INBOX is a special name reserved to mean \"the primary mailbox for this user on this server\".\" Section 6.3.4: \"It is an error to attempt to delete INBOX\"&nbsp;&nbsp;Section 6.3.5: \"Renaming INBOX is permitted, and has special behavior.&nbsp;&nbsp;It moves all messages in INBOX to a new mailbox with the given name, leaving INBOX empty.\"<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:06:54Z"}, {"author": "Robert Stepanek", "text": "dkg: currently, there is no special return code when the last calendar in that account is deleted<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:07:05Z"}, {"author": "Barry Leiba", "text": "It's true that INBOX does not have to be SELECTable.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:07:08Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "\"confirmed\" seems orthogonal to the other states.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:26:50Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "also, resolved and completed seem ambiguous<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:27:38Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "Yeah.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:28:21Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "dkg: take that to mic?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:28:39Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "yes please take to mic - I have no mic now :p<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:30:36Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "Maybe \"resolved\" means the equivalent of \"wontfix\", i.e., we figured out that there's not actually a problem.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:31:59Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "Either way, I agree that all needs to be clarified.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:33:51Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "This points out that semantics of these properties need to be defined<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:33:57Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "oho!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:34:10Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "You could close without resolving.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:34:51Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "thanks, yes, clarification would be great.&nbsp;&nbsp;or, just drop one of \"resolved\" or \"confirmed\"<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:34:58Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "I'm on GitHub projects where we have all sorts of unusual tags, like \"discussed\".<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:36:24Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "Jim Fenton: yes, generic tags might be sufficient to handle cases like \"confirmed\"<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:38:48Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "i think for the underlying status you want a very simple, exhaustive, and mutually-exclusive set.<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:39:08Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "i'm having a hard time seeing how status interacts with recurrence on a task<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:40:47Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "dkg: Linear.app does a pretty good job of this<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:40:49Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "there's about 5 total lifecycle stages, and you can create multiple states within each<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:41:02Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "when the task recurs, does its status change?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:41:02Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "Bron Gondwana: right but some groups have distinct workflows<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:41:31Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "@jim: We have one of those in the datatracker too. ;)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:43:11Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "can't hear what's being said<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:43:11Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "yeah sorry :(&nbsp;&nbsp;*sigh*<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T14:43:21Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "Getting confused between IMIP and IMAP!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:08:19Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "yeah, welcome to acronym hell<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:08:49Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "50k! And I thought my mailboxes were out of control!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:10:58Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "we designed the mailbox model for Cyrus IMAP to be sensible for up to 1 million messages in a mailbox<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:11:26Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "yow!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:11:37Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "Fastmail's biggest single mailbox is about 4 million<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:11:38Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "it's getting painful<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:11:55Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "so the range 5:3 is the same as the range 3:5 ?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:13:24Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "yes, looks like it<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:14:21Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": ". fetch 5:2 UID<br/>* 2 FETCH (UID 132987)<br/>* 3 FETCH (UID 132995)<br/>* 4 FETCH (UID 132996)<br/>* 5 FETCH (UID 133000)<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:14:27Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "on my inbox<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:14:35Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "Fix the year on that one please<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:25:50Z"}, {"author": "Jim Fenton", "text": "Which one?<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:26:05Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "The one before SIEVE<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:26:06Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "The first one<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:26:11Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "He changed it to April 2021<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:26:15Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "use the mic please<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:27:29Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "thanks all!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:31:52Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "if barry's words are for the whole group, then he should use the mic<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:32:12Z"}, {"author": "dkg", "text": "it's unintelligible remotely<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:32:19Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "Yeah I heard nothing from Barry there<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:32:51Z"}, {"author": "Rene Cordier", "text": "thanks have a good day!<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:33:10Z"}, {"author": "Bron Gondwana", "text": "Barry was just practicing slide sharing<br/>", "time": "2022-03-21T15:33:17Z"}]