[{"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "Hi Vienna!
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:29:57Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "Good day all
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:30:34Z"}, {"author": "Nancy Cam-Winget", "text": "Good evening, morning and afternoon to all!
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:30:58Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "remote: can you hear Nancy?
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:31:29Z"}, {"author": "Joris Baum", "text": "yes
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:31:41Z"}, {"author": "Danny Zollner", "text": "Yes
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:31:41Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "we're good
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:31:41Z"}, {"author": "Shigeya Suzuki", "text": "yes.
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:31:44Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "Welcome Aaron
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:32:43Z"}, {"author": "Roman Danyliw", "text": "Welcome Aaron! Thank you for volunteering to serve.
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:32:46Z"}, {"author": "aaronpk", "text": "https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-113-scim
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:34:47Z"}, {"author": "Pamela Dingle", "text": "https://hackmd.io/71rPgCGDSmyNDy3AUW2MLA?edit
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:36:19Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "I can provide a link to those.
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:39:29Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "to the Swagger spec for scim
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:39:37Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "https://github.com/i2-open/i2scim/tree/master/spec
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:41:07Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "openapi's polymorphic support is a bit difficult, and that becomes important when combining capabilities.
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:43:13Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "Agreed, it has a lot of limitations. It can't deal with the json schema very well. I left it fairly generic in i2scim.io
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:44:12Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "Is anybody having trouble with audio and video?
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:45:00Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "audio/video is OK for me
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:45:10Z"}, {"author": "Danny Zollner", "text": "I'm not - I had to slide the volume thing in the bottom right all the way to the right side
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:45:31Z"}, {"author": "Danny Zollner", "text": "(not having trouble)
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:45:39Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "No audio and strangely only see eliot
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:46:04Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "WFM (but then I'm using a compressor)
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:46:22Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "@phil - possible maybe you clicked the Expand Video button? tiny 4-way arrow
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:46:45Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "Expand video can be undone also via double click
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:47:07Z"}, {"author": "Julien Schneider", "text": "all fine here - Nancy volume is a bit low since she is not presenting anymore
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:47:24Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "For audio, do you see audio bitrates in the bottom row?
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:47:32Z"}, {"author": "Stuart Card", "text": "In room volume intermittently very low.
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:47:41Z"}, {"author": "Danny Zollner", "text": "I think the poll worked
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:47:52Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "yep
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:48:03Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "yep
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:48:06Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "I agree, I see \"technical features\" without a story like use case that explains the objective of the feature
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:52:28Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "^ agree
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:52:44Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "I am confused. THe bulk request provides a fully enumerated response.
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:54:24Z"}, {"author": "Nancy Cam-Winget", "text": "@Phil: did you want to raise these to Pam/use case draft?
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:55:36Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "No. I think I can raise comments when an ID is raised. Many of these cases are already covered in the draft.
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:56:25Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "Seems like maybe some of the Concepts aren't covered by these use cases (for instance, Priv Esc)
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:57:46Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "Could we defer this poll until AFTER my presentation?
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:58:05Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "+1
", "time": "2022-03-23T13:59:07Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "In the EMU WG, we presented an idea for tunneling provisioning protocols over EAP (EAP-CREDS). This approach fit our use-case for managing access-network credentials (broadband industry, converged networks and cores). It might be interesting to see if EAP-CREDS can support SCIM as an encapsulated protocol.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:00:13Z"}, {"author": "Cullen Jennings", "text": "This slide cracks me up
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:00:18Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "It seems there are a lot of shared concepts, although our goal for EAP-CREDS is more restricted to credentials, rather than the general concept of identities.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:01:20Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/materials/slides-113-emu-eap-creds-00
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:04:21Z"}, {"author": "Nancy Cam-Winget", "text": "Thanks for the pointer Massimiliano. My recollection of EAP is that it is for authentication (of a device/user/entity) at a time. SCIM can do that, but can also do bulk, so scaling is a consideration.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:05:39Z"}, {"author": "Nancy Cam-Winget", "text": "Would be interested to learn points of intersection.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:06:41Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "SCIM takes security from HTTP. Most implementations use tokens yes
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:06:52Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "Reverse relationship may be achievable in the Events Profile. See DBR. We just need to add it to the spec.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:10:00Z"}, {"author": "Stuart Card", "text": "Mic volume again
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:17:16Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "@Nancy - I need to familiarize myself more with this environment (I am very new and I still have lots to learn... :D). However, I think that it may be possible to use EAP-CREDS to encapsulate the HTTP messages over the EAP layer, allowing the usage without the need to provision IP or the need to pre-configure the device (e.g., discovery).
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:18:27Z"}, {"author": "Danny Zollner", "text": "+1 to what Pam just said
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:20:33Z"}, {"author": "Tim Cappalli", "text": "This isn't about actually provisioning new credentials. It is about creating a device identity entry in the directory that allows other systems to use it (e.g. a DPP solution)
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:21:13Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "Eliots draft is just a new schema.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:21:14Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "^ concur with phil
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:21:31Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "Its not working.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:21:42Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "I think we can also handle reverse flow in events.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:22:06Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "Trying again.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:22:11Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "it's not just a new schema
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:22:14Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "sure
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:23:19Z"}, {"author": "Joris Baum", "text": "@Tim sorry if that is obvious.. but by \"DPP\" you mean \"Data Portability\"?
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:24:04Z"}, {"author": "Tim Cappalli", "text": "Device Provisioning Protocol
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:24:27Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "@Joris: DPP = Device Provisioning Protocol or Wifi EasyConnect
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:24:32Z"}, {"author": "Joris Baum", "text": "OK thanks
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:24:32Z"}, {"author": "Tim Cappalli", "text": "(sorry about that)
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:24:42Z"}, {"author": "Antoine Fressancourt", "text": "Is there a wish to make a state of the art and gap analysis ? I think there is a number of (IoT) standards addressing at least part of the picture
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:24:52Z"}, {"author": "Tim Cappalli", "text": "I don't think the actual device provisioning standards are really in scope here. They are just examples of protocols that could leverage the data in the database
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:25:24Z"}, {"author": "Tim Cappalli", "text": "/ directory
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:25:33Z"}, {"author": "Antoine Fressancourt", "text": "global platform or euicc for instance
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:25:35Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "@Tim - it's just a matter of feeding the enterprise the inputs necessary for whatever those devices need iin order to onboard. And those will vary based on onboardnig standard.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:26:20Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "My link is unstable.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:26:24Z"}, {"author": "Nancy Cam-Winget", "text": "Phil can you hear us? We hear you
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:26:32Z"}, {"author": "Stuart Card", "text": "closer to mic please
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:26:42Z"}, {"author": "Cullen Jennings", "text": "Phil - on you video pannels - try hitting pause on all of them and only sending audio not video and it might work (no idea why it can not do this for you)
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:27:19Z"}, {"author": "Danny Zollner", "text": "When you say incorporate - separate use case or 2.0 use case?
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:27:52Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "Nancy...it looks like my bandwidth is no bueno today. I will send you a transcript of my presentation by email
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:27:55Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "@Tim - Thanks for the clarification. As I said, I have to learn. I think there might still some interesting synergies that would be interesting to look into - at minimum, for example, discovery of credentials (and their types) and tunneling of the messages over EAP instead of requiring HTTP/IP + Auth.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:29:38Z"}, {"author": "Tim Cappalli", "text": "@Max there is no need to use EAP at all here. At a high level, it is just about conveying essentially \"inventory data\" from one system to a directory. This would always occur out of band from any network layer device provisioniong
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:30:46Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "@Cullen, I will give that a try.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:31:41Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "yay!
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:31:44Z"}, {"author": "Massimiliano Pala", "text": "@Tim, thanks.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:32:35Z"}, {"author": "Cullen Jennings", "text": "PS forever - do not waste time on what IETF level it is, the only level of importance is \"this is an RFC\"
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:33:37Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "agree. I think TLS 1.2 is still technically in draft.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:34:05Z"}, {"author": "Cullen Jennings", "text": "I can see value of a good spring cleaning to get rid of crud ...
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:37:27Z"}, {"author": "Joris Baum", "text": "no its broken
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:39:08Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "looks corrupted
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:39:09Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "beautiful
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:39:17Z"}, {"author": "Joris Baum", "text": "happened in the jmap session as well for a single slide
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:39:18Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "no comment
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:40:11Z"}, {"author": "Michael Richardson", "text": "I took a screen capture of the broken slide, and emailed support@ietf.org
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:42:37Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "Audio still an issue. My question is regarding photos. Photos is just a URI. There is no obligation to import or pass an image into SCIM. Is that the issue?
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:43:03Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "I believe the consensus from before is that implementers wanted to choose how to solve this problem.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:45:31Z"}, {"author": "Stuart Card", "text": "is someone speaking?
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:48:57Z"}, {"author": "Joris Baum", "text": "yes
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:49:12Z"}, {"author": "Peter Yee", "text": "Yes, Nancy was.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:49:15Z"}, {"author": "Nancy Cam-Winget", "text": "I am very, very close to the mic
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:49:36Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "getting an echo
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:50:12Z"}, {"author": "cabo", "text": "Probably meetecho increased the gain on the chairs' mike, which leads to echo
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:51:03Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "^ agree. nancy may need to mute when not speaking
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:51:15Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "Checking
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:51:39Z"}, {"author": "Nancy Cam-Winget", "text": "I am trying to get relly close to the mic as some say it's hard to hear us...but moving away now
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:51:45Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "We can try to lower the gain from here, but then remote participants may hear the room lower
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:51:53Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "From here I can only lower the input from the whole room, though, not the individual mic
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:52:33Z"}, {"author": "aaronpk", "text": "@Meetecho do we have a mute button here? I don\u2019t see one at the desk
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:52:44Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "I don't think those mics have a mute button
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:52:56Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "The only thing you can do is turn them off entirely, which would be a bit awkward to do often
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:53:28Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "+1 to Leifs comments on the existing extension points for schema etc.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:53:30Z"}, {"author": "Mike Kiser", "text": "agreed on the 2.0 as what it is , and then new stuff should be placed in 2.x or 3.0
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:53:43Z"}, {"author": "cabo", "text": "semver
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:53:54Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "\"v3.0\" may provide a marketing boost
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:54:22Z"}, {"author": "Bob Moskowitz", "text": "Got an aviation digital identity call now. Bye.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:54:38Z"}, {"author": "Mike Kiser", "text": "yes, and several vendors are already using SCIM 2.0 as a nomenclature.
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:54:45Z"}, {"author": "Stuart Card", "text": "mic
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:57:27Z"}, {"author": "cabo", "text": "Expanding my cryptic comment: https://semver.org/
", "time": "2022-03-23T14:59:56Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "LOL!
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:06:36Z"}, {"author": "Danny Zollner", "text": "I'm very interested in asynchronous event processing being added to SCIM
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:16:14Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "Can we just all be impressed how well Phil scripted all of this?
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:23:33Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "Nancy is a god!
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:24:14Z"}, {"author": "Danny Zollner", "text": "Definitely taking notes for how I can present better in the future :)
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:24:43Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "That's why I anticpate DBR happening over buses, vs. co-operative over SSE
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:25:53Z"}, {"author": "Phillip Hunt", "text": "My comment was to Tim's comment.
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:27:25Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "this has been great!
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:28:39Z"}, {"author": "Eliot Lear", "text": "Sure
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:28:50Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "nice job Nancy and Aaron
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:28:51Z"}, {"author": "Janelle Allen", "text": "4 weeks
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:28:55Z"}, {"author": "Mike Kiser", "text": "very clear and helpful!
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:28:56Z"}, {"author": "Paul Lanzi", "text": "clap clap clap
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:30:24Z"}, {"author": "Pamela Dingle", "text": "bye everyone!
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:30:52Z"}, {"author": "aaronpk", "text": "thank you note takers!
", "time": "2022-03-23T15:31:10Z"}]