[{"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "is anyone emitting sounds?
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:01:01Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "Warren is
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:01:36Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "and Fred just spoke too
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:01:42Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "hmm. ok. I'll assume its me and go back to local debug then because bupkes here
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:02:14Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "Warren is still talking - it's hard to see, of course
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:02:26Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "all good
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:02:29Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "(fixed. PBCAK)
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:02:40Z"}, {"author": "Peter van Dijk", "text": "great
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:02:47Z"}, {"author": "Jordi Palet Martinez", "text": "is not easier if speakers manage their own slides?
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:03:16Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "Depends on if they are local and have phone app, etc.
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:07:36Z"}, {"author": "Jordi Palet Martinez", "text": "not yet
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:07:37Z"}, {"author": "MichaelRichardson", "text": "We see V6OPS Proceedures.  Then it went away.
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:07:54Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "... apparently that was the wrong set of slides...
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:08:07Z"}, {"author": "Jordi Palet Martinez", "text": "Ron, maybe it was because Warren was sharing, you should try again
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:08:22Z"}, {"author": "Ron Bonica", "text": "https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/agenda/
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:08:54Z"}, {"author": "Cheng Li", "text": "wow, so happy to see people attend meeting on-site.
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:10:43Z"}, {"author": "Eduard V", "text": "a small echo from the room. Probably, from Warren's mic
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:12:36Z"}, {"author": "Bob Hinden", "text": "Not hearing any echo on my end.
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:13:10Z"}, {"author": "Cheng Li", "text": "all good for me
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:13:23Z"}, {"author": "Eduard V", "text": "no echo from the local speaker, only from remote. A small one, not a big problem.
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:15:50Z"}, {"author": "Fred Baker", "text": "Comment to MeetEcho: When I turn on the countdown clock, it blocks the screen display, meaning I can't see the slides. I don't know whether that affects anyone besides me, but it sure doesn't help the chair.
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:19:01Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "Fred, do you mean a popup, or the clock itself?
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:19:56Z"}, {"author": "Meetecho", "text": "If it's the popup, you should be able to dismiss it
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:20:04Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "Thanks Paolo! This is an important document!
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:21:22Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "PLEASE SPEAK NAMES CLEARLY
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:31:59Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "GRUMPY CAT SAYS BAD PEOPLE DONT SAY NAMES CLEARLY GRRR
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:38:01Z"}, {"author": "Ole Tr\u00f8an", "text": "The Meetecho mike queue matches reasonably well with the physical reality.
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:40:21Z"}, {"author": "Ole Tr\u00f8an", "text": "Ted Lemon talking now.
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:40:27Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "Fine, I'll go with that.
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:40:47Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "Frankly, note taking is silly.
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:40:57Z"}, {"author": "Ole Tr\u00f8an", "text": "Yes.
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:41:33Z"}, {"author": "Tim Chown", "text": "we have quite wildly different mic volumes
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:48:55Z"}, {"author": "Jordi Palet Martinez", "text": "yes
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:49:34Z"}, {"author": "Tim Chown", "text": "and that one is wildly loud :)
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:49:34Z"}, {"author": "Christian Veenman", "text": "yes!
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:49:35Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "GRRR
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:50:47Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "Note that there is a few second latency between my clicking the next slide, and it showing up on the ME screen...
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:54:30Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "I want a refund (to quote a bearded gnome)
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:55:31Z"}, {"author": "MichaelRichardson", "text": "question about teardown rate:  if we have millions of HTTP/1.1 and/or QUIC connections which don't really get torn down, but just hang around because actually the client device disconnected/moved... then the connections will mostly just timeout, right?
", "time": "2022-03-21T09:59:55Z"}, {"author": "MichaelRichardson", "text": "is that a different kind of teardown?
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:00:05Z"}, {"author": "MichaelRichardson", "text": "could expired connections between torn down as a group, perhaps using a single table lock for thousands of dead connections?
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:00:37Z"}, {"author": "Ole Tr\u00f8an", "text": "All NAT sessions timeout... even TCP ones (from transitory timeout).
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:04:08Z"}, {"author": "MichaelRichardson", "text": "yes, my point is that if there are limits for how fast/many sessions can be dropped, then dropping them at timeout, in groups, might be faster, as it involved fewer locks on the tables.
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:08:54Z"}, {"author": "MichaelRichardson", "text": "vs, tearing them down on FIN.
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:09:08Z"}, {"author": "Bob Hinden", "text": "The speaker should speak into the microphone
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:09:24Z"}, {"author": "Ole Tr\u00f8an", "text": "Yes, you can't really tear them down on FIN, at least not if you want to be a little nice...In the implementation I work on we garbage collect opportunistically. Without locking.
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:10:02Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "We can try using the MeetEcho sharing for the next presentation. This should work better.... Apologies for the technical difficulties all.
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:14:46Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "No. slides not seen here
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:17:51Z"}, {"author": "Bob Hinden", "text": "Warren:  If you open meeting materials and press reload, you will see all of the slides.  I did that and it worked for me.
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:23:50Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "Yes, they are now listd here, but not in the \"Ask to share\" list.
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:33:59Z"}, {"author": "Tim Chown", "text": "centuries!
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:35:01Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "dog years
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:35:23Z"}, {"author": "Tim Chown", "text": "woof
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:38:28Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "Grrr
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:40:12Z"}, {"author": "Jordi Palet Martinez", "text": "Eric, I believe there are some options in Africa, I will contact you by email right now
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:44:44Z"}, {"author": "Tim Chown", "text": "do we have a whats changed in the centuries list?
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:45:00Z"}, {"author": "Toerless Eckert", "text": "Now that everyone in the room has figured out how to get in line virtually, the physical microphone line has vanished.
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:45:17Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "@Jordi thank you in advance
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:48:08Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "Question: If there are still >5 min at end of this presentation, do we take questions on JAMES?
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:51:26Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "yes please ;-)
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:51:57Z"}, {"author": "Gorry Fairhurst", "text": "I liked the presentation on measuring EH - but I really worry if people draw conclusions from specific measurements. I expect probing methodology and probe / target location can really have an influence on what we conclude. We are also making current measurements with a different method and different vantage point, and likely different conclusions. I think we could really benefit from combining a range of measurements If we wish to use this to inform FUTURE standards  ...
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:52:38Z"}, {"author": "Ole Tr\u00f8an", "text": "Can't this meta-discussion on v6ops procedures be taken to the list?
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:52:50Z"}, {"author": "\u00c9ric Vyncke", "text": "@Gorry correct of course, the choice of vantage points have a major influence. But, our goal is also to measure the tier-1 / regional tier providers and not all access providers
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:53:46Z"}, {"author": "Gorry Fairhurst", "text": "@eric ...Thanks for the talk... talking is always the start to understanding how things work! So, understanding different approaches and how they relate could be really helpful, thanks for your talk!
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:57:27Z"}, {"author": "Bob Hinden", "text": "bye
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:59:13Z"}, {"author": "George Michaelson", "text": "I pushed \"publish\" on the notes use them in good health
", "time": "2022-03-21T10:59:19Z"}]