what's the meetecho link? I couldn't find it on the agenda
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:18:24Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "Its weird that emodir has reviewers. It's not a review team.
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:18:33Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "https://wws.conf.meetecho.com/conference/?group=emodir
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:18:37Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "members might make more sense?
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:18:39Z"}, {"author": "Nick Doty", "text": "(thank you, dhruv!)
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:19:07Z"}, {"author": "Greg Wood", "text": "https://wws.conf.meetecho.com/conference/?group=emodir
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:22:03Z"}, {"author": "Greg Wood", "text": "sorry. late to the game
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:22:14Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "https://notes.ietf.org/emodir-2022-plan-2022
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:24:18Z"}, {"author": "Greg Wood", "text": "thansk, Dhruv
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:26:11Z"}, {"author": "Greg Wood", "text": "The tool collective note taking so everyone should feel free to contribute
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:26:51Z"}, {"author": "Greg Wood", "text": "https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-114-emodir
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:35:06Z"}, {"author": "Karen O'Donoghue", "text": "", "time": "2022-07-26T21:38:54Z"}, {"author": "Karen O'Donoghue", "text": "Here is the document we are discussing. I don't necessarily think that this should be posted broadly, but it isn't secret.
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:39:16Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "I said (paraphrasing) : Remember that this session's recording will be available on youtube later - choose what you display appropriately.
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:41:05Z"}, {"author": "Greg Wood", "text": "this is Alexa speaking
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:43:26Z"}, {"author": "Greg Wood", "text": "(Alexa Morris)
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:43:32Z"}, {"author": "Nick Doty", "text": "I personally found it valuable, when attending my first in-person IETF meeting, to have the drinks/dinner session (on the first night?), and to meet some in leadership as well as other newcomers
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:44:37Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "Given what Alexa said, perhaps for the coffee breaks it would be good to have a broader pool of experienced (if not truly leadership) volunteers who are willing to be social with the newcomers. Might need a bit of direction given to the volunteers for what's expected of them.
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:47:42Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "(I'd certainly be willing to do drink coffee with newcomers. :wink:)
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:48:29Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "To me how many newcomers continue to come back is most important (and andrew said exactly that)
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:49:04Z"}, {"author": "Nick Doty", "text": "in the suggestion for coming up with more newcomer programs before 115, I'll think about some welcoming features for newcomers to email or newcomers to online meetings
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:55:17Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "@John Klensin Having a \"mentor\" for those sorts of folks (and they needn't be technical mentors) would be a good thing.
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:55:23Z"}, {"author": "Alexa Morris", "text": "To briefly revisit the question of newcomer satisfaction with the meeting itself, there is a general question in the meeting survey that asks, \"Overall, how satisfied were you with the IETF 112 meeting?\" and we can filter those results to see how newcomers respond to that question and compare that to how longer-term IETF participants answer it. (But of course that doesn't give us information on satisfaction with other areas, such as mail list participation)
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:56:20Z"}, {"author": "Nick Doty", "text": "I'm so glad that the sodestream and automated mailing list analysis work is reaching this community!
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:56:49Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/emo-dir
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:57:33Z"}, {"author": "Greg Wood", "text": "Thanks, Dhruv!
", "time": "2022-07-26T21:59:27Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "\"Come to a safari to observe the strange and exotic IETFers in their natural environment\" :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing::rolling_on_the_floor_laughing::rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:02:05Z"}, {"author": "John Klensin", "text": "@Pete, in a previous generation of this work, that was referred to \"come to the zoo and see the geeks\". :-(
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:03:06Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "I have no objections so long as I am not required to bite heads off of chickens. :wink:
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:03:53Z"}, {"author": "John Klensin", "text": "I don't see any chickens around here. Maybe a turkey or two in past years... don't know about how you feel about their heads.
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:04:47Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "I can see \"local or nearby\" participation for a 1/2 day session but would someone travel for this? Donno...
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:05:02Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "The message for \"Why participate in IETF\" would be key more that how!
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:05:59Z"}, {"author": "Nick Doty", "text": "I love that AD summary of some relevant WGs; I had thought about inviting people to sit in on a WG meeting, but the meeting agenda itself is likely to be less accessible
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:06:29Z"}, {"author": "Greg Wood", "text": "Mirja K\u00fahlewind is in the queue, but not on Meetecho
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:08:47Z"}, {"author": "John Klensin", "text": "Nick, something we did years ago and then abandoned was to have reports from each area at every IETF. What they are working on, what the key issue are, etc., The reasons it was abandoned, given scheduling, etc., were clear, but that was extremely useful, not just in newcomer education but in introducing long-term participants to things they probably should be following.
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:09:19Z"}, {"author": "Nick Doty", "text": "we could ask the ADs to do a summary, or to nominate a WG chair from their area who would be able to attend (and I expect many WG chairs could do a 2 minute summary about a relevant topic in another wg as well)
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:10:05Z"}, {"author": "Greg Wood", "text": "we have about 5 min left so I've closed the queue
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:10:20Z"}, {"author": "Nick Doty", "text": "didn't ISOC literally hold those meetings with policymakers in the past?
\nhttps://www.internetsociety.org/policy-programs/policymakers-program-to-ietf/
@Nick yes.
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:12:12Z"}, {"author": "Greg Wood", "text": "that's what Karen was speaking about
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:12:25Z"}, {"author": "Karen O'Donoghue", "text": "Yes, Nick we did have that program. It got suspended during the pandemic, and we haven't figured out how we wish to restart it.
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:12:35Z"}, {"author": "Nick Doty", "text": "@John I would definitely appreciate that summary of area activity from the AD. I don't know it even has to be a live presentation, just a doc with bullet points could help these user/civil society participants or the more peripheral participants
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:14:01Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "My experience with getting 'enterprises' to participate in IETF (as well as deploying IPv6) has been a hard-sell :)
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:15:40Z"}, {"author": "John Klensin", "text": "@Nick: Indeed. And that has been proposed two or three times, including in the form of a per-Area report to be sent out a week or so ahead of an IETF meeting, but the IESG usually claims (with considerable justification) to be too busy.
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:15:55Z"}, {"author": "Nick Doty", "text": "if we threaten inviting them to a fifteen minute talk during the IETF week, maybe the bullet points report will suddenly seem feasible even for busy folks ;)
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:17:01Z"}, {"author": "Greg Wood", "text": "Thanks to everyone!
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:17:52Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "Thanks! enjoy social
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:18:03Z"}, {"author": "Greg Wood", "text": "Will send notes aournd to the list so please feel free to improve!
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:18:11Z"}, {"author": "Dhruv Dhody", "text": "a bed awaits me 03:45 am here
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:18:13Z"}, {"author": "Nick Doty", "text": "/me waves from a North Carolina beach
", "time": "2022-07-26T22:18:24Z"}]