Greetings Jana!
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:02:44Z"}, {"author": "Nick Banks", "text": "Yes
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:04:07Z"}, {"author": "Stephen Strowes", "text": "yes!
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:04:07Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "I see your screen in the room
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:04:13Z"}, {"author": "Nick Banks", "text": "Yes, we can hear
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:04:39Z"}, {"author": "Asad Saeed", "text": "we can hear you
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:04:46Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "I'll take notes...
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:07:21Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "Yep.
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:07:35Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "Sure, you bet!
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:07:38Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "I'm not seeing Bob's slides...
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:09:10Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "Anyone else have this issue?
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:09:15Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "I had to reload the tab
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:09:23Z"}, {"author": "Michael T\u00fcxen", "text": "I can see them
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:09:24Z"}, {"author": "Anna Brunstrom", "text": "No, I see them
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:09:26Z"}, {"author": "Richard Patterson", "text": "yeah, no slides here either
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:09:27Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "make sure you're in Presentation mode, leftmost of the top-right icons
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:09:47Z"}, {"author": "Jana Iyengar", "text": "The slides are online, you can follow along in case you can't get this working
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:10:00Z"}, {"author": "Jana Iyengar", "text": "We're on slide 3
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:10:04Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "Yep, I'm in presentation mode and just following along in the PDF
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:11:37Z"}, {"author": "Jana Iyengar", "text": "slide 4
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:11:47Z"}, {"author": "Hang Shi", "text": "What is ECN-Cubic? Does Cubic react to ECN?
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:12:01Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "Yes, it can. In Linux TCP it will.
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:12:16Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "it's just standard Linux CUBIC with ECN enabled, I assume
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:12:28Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "Yes, Linux CUBIC with RFC3168 ECN causing the cwnd reductions.
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:12:55Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "it's one of those things which \"just works\" if you flip the switch
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:13:01Z"}, {"author": "Hang Shi", "text": "Got it. Thx
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:13:12Z"}, {"author": "Hang Shi", "text": "Brilliant idea!
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:16:38Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "so far we've only been shown the ideal conditions; believe me things get more complicated than this
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:18:39Z"}, {"author": "Hang Shi", "text": "Will iOS 16 ship with TCP Prague?
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:23:08Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "I doubt it
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:23:52Z"}, {"author": "Matt Joras", "text": "fwiw this testing is with QUIC, not TCP afaik. I don't know if they actually implemented Prague in TCP?
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:23:53Z"}, {"author": "Jana Iyengar", "text": "Oh hm. I assumed this was TCP
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:24:16Z"}, {"author": "Jana Iyengar", "text": "Yup, QUIC.
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:25:03Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "what slide are we on now with Bob?
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:29:55Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "8
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:30:03Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "8, apparently
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:30:06Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "thanks!
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:30:08Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "this is a really badly labelled set of graphs
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:32:37Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "Agreed ... :-)
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:32:53Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "slide 9
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:33:28Z"}, {"author": "Jana Iyengar", "text": "slide 10
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:36:01Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "what's the metric graphed on the top row, again?
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:37:55Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "in slide 10?
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:37:57Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "in my experience, most of the \"long tail\" in the conventional TCPs' CDF plots is due to the startup transient
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:38:08Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "It would be useful to see the throughputs of the long-running flows in these cases?
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:38:59Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "I think that's the black bars at the bottom
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:39:27Z"}, {"author": "Jana Iyengar", "text": "yup
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:39:35Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "again, badly labelled graphs
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:39:40Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "but that only shows total utilization
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:39:43Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "one of the CCs could be starved?
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:39:48Z"}, {"author": "Jana Iyengar", "text": "yeah, it doesn't show distribution
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:39:58Z"}, {"author": "Jana Iyengar", "text": "Bob can respond when he returns to his laptop
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:40:23Z"}, {"author": "Jana Iyengar", "text": "It would be good to show that
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:40:32Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "Sounds great, thanks.
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:40:42Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "the results have been \"stable since 2019\" because no substantive technical changes have been made since then, despite a lot of pushback in TSVWG
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:41:01Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "my second question would have been to outline the requirements for the network path that can support a Prague CC
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:47:00Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "since there was absolutely no mention of that in the presentation
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:47:16Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "and it has been the single biggest issue in TSVWG
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:47:32Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "@Nathalie: if you move your microphone down a little, it should pop less
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:50:59Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "it is better now
", "time": "2022-07-28T20:51:23Z"}, {"author": "Spencer Dawkins", "text": "The question on Nathalie's last slide is perfect ...
", "time": "2022-07-28T21:03:15Z"}, {"author": "Markus Amend", "text": "+1
", "time": "2022-07-28T21:04:07Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "Thanks, Jana!
", "time": "2022-07-28T21:07:23Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Morton", "text": "Agreed with Colin's perspective here
", "time": "2022-07-28T21:07:31Z"}, {"author": "Neal Cardwell", "text": "Notes are at: https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-114-iccrg?edit
", "time": "2022-07-28T21:07:40Z"}]