is remote audio working?
", "time": "2022-07-29T16:33:24Z"}, {"author": "Steffen Fries", "text": "okay, after reconnecting it worked
", "time": "2022-07-29T16:34:18Z"}, {"author": "Behcet Sarikaya", "text": "@Steffen yes it works
", "time": "2022-07-29T16:35:42Z"}, {"author": "Warren Kumari", "text": "Hello all! I will be your friendly \"jabber\" scribe today. Please let me know LOUDLY if you would like a comment relayed to the mic, or if it is jsut idle musings...
", "time": "2022-07-29T16:36:26Z"}, {"author": "Michael Richardson", "text": "https://github.com/ietf-rats-wg/architecture/blob/master/diagrams/svg-fig-05.svg and https://github.com/ietf-rats-wg/architecture/blob/master/diagrams/svg-fig-06.svg in case someone wants the diagrams from the ID in SVG...
", "time": "2022-07-29T16:38:30Z"}, {"author": "Henk Birkholz", "text": "", "time": "2022-07-29T16:46:26Z"}, {"author": "Behcet Sarikaya", "text": "@Michael is this scitt?
", "time": "2022-07-29T16:50:11Z"}, {"author": "Michael Richardson", "text": "SNAC.
", "time": "2022-07-29T16:51:09Z"}, {"author": "Behcet Sarikaya", "text": "@Michael I see thx
", "time": "2022-07-29T16:51:38Z"}, {"author": "Steffen Fries", "text": "We cant hear the room
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:20:18Z"}, {"author": "Jan-Frederik Rieckers", "text": "The room sound is gone.
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:20:20Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "I have also lost Dave
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:20:21Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "Room is silent
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:20:24Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Nichols", "text": "Yeah, me too
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:20:30Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "Video gone now too
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:20:34Z"}, {"author": "Kazuaki Ueda", "text": "lost video, too
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:20:38Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "It almost looks like the meeting has lost internet
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:20:45Z"}, {"author": "Steffen Fries", "text": "+1
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:20:47Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Nichols", "text": "Oh-oh, rolling up the carpets
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:20:48Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "The irony of the internet going down for IETF is palpable
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:21:12Z"}, {"author": "Jan-Frederik Rieckers", "text": "Did someone from the noc pull the wrong cable during teardown ;)
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:21:19Z"}, {"author": "S\u00e1vyo Morais", "text": "Hahahaha
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:21:30Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "We can always continue on the Internet -- that wasn't lost :-)
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:21:51Z"}, {"author": "Kathleen Nichols", "text": "Maybe type questions here? Or I could try to quickly set up a Meet?
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:21:53Z"}, {"author": "Steffen Fries", "text": "BTW, the meeting notes get filled up
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:21:59Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "DaveThaler: use of TEEs in IoT is great, and wishes more people would do this. And wanted review of open source... could go to the CCC (confidential computing consortium) for review and would like more tech talks.... if you are looking collaborators, then the CCC might be able to help. Limited domains... a) some IoT objects roam between networks --- how do you know if you are in a limited domain, b) how do you do discovery in the limited domain.
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:23:54Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "(the \"secret handshake\" problem)
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:33:16Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "(and you need unlinkability)
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:34:09Z"}, {"author": "Dave Thaler", "text": "yes the secret handshake problem is exactly what I was referring to
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:36:07Z"}, {"author": "Dave Thaler", "text": "See https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-dnssd-privacy-05 for the latest draft of what I was referring to in an mDNS context
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:37:29Z"}, {"author": "Dave Thaler", "text": "I will follow up via email with an invitation to present to the CCC TAC since you have an open-source project that uses TEEs for an interesting use case. Meetings are public, and we love tech talks on relevant topics.
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:39:39Z"}, {"author": "Dave Thaler", "text": "all the stuff I didn't comment on, I like what I heard :)
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:40:20Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "Dave Thaler said:
\n\n\nyes the secret handshake problem is exactly what I was referring to
\n
We discussed this in https://github.com/t2trg/2017-07-wishi/
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:42:22Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "mcr: I think we have gone done a specific aspect rathole.
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:42:52Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "mcr: I'm not sure privacy is a rathole. But it seems obvious to me how to solve this particular problem, so I think we have covered it...
", "time": "2022-07-29T17:44:22Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "But you can't have both a landing pad document and tons of details
", "time": "2022-07-29T18:04:08Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "But it has to justify the technologies and explain why they are there.
", "time": "2022-07-29T18:05:10Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "mcr: MCR suggests title: \"A Survey of IETF protocols that address IoT security threats\"
", "time": "2022-07-29T18:07:34Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "Fine by me :)
", "time": "2022-07-29T18:07:48Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "You need to have objectives before you can have threats
", "time": "2022-07-29T18:08:35Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "\"I have a device connected to the internet\"
", "time": "2022-07-29T18:09:13Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "That's the baseline objective.
", "time": "2022-07-29T18:09:23Z"}, {"author": "Carsten Bormann", "text": "That is a statement of fact, not an objective.
", "time": "2022-07-29T18:09:36Z"}, {"author": "Brendan Moran", "text": "There are others in the draft that are defined as usability requirements.
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