[{"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

JWT : \"jot\" :: JWP : \"jop\" ?

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:32:11Z"}, {"author": "Roman Danyliw", "text": "

The meeting will get start shortly. We are working out projector issues in the room

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:32:16Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "

no audio from the mic that john is at

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:35:16Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "

at least, I didn't hear any tapping there

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:35:27Z"}, {"author": "Shigeya Suzuki", "text": "

One of the mics is listening to somebody in the distance...

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:36:40Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

if only we had had a remote meeting, no projector issues! :sunglasses::thumbsup:

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:37:57Z"}, {"author": "Shigeya Suzuki", "text": "


", "time": "2022-07-25T17:38:20Z"}, {"author": "Roman Danyliw", "text": "

Still working out the A/V

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:38:21Z"}, {"author": "Benjamin Kaduk", "text": "

Shigeya Suzuki said:


One of the mics is listening to somebody in the distance...


The chairs' mic, I think.

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:38:28Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "

Please no dancing

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:39:10Z"}, {"author": "Ian Williams", "text": "

Very difficult to hear the speaker on the remote stream. Local volume is maxed out, as is my device's volume.

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:41:10Z"}, {"author": "Roman Danyliw", "text": "

Thank you to Chris Inacio for note taking.

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:41:28Z"}, {"author": "Shigeya Suzuki", "text": "

me too. I'm maxing out audio too.

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:41:39Z"}, {"author": "Ian Williams", "text": "

(this speaker is quite clear)

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:41:53Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "

Karen please get closer to the mic in general

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:41:54Z"}, {"author": "Wendy Seltzer", "text": "

the floor mic is loud!

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:41:58Z"}, {"author": "Justin Richer", "text": "

Floor mic is normal volume, Karen is quiet :)

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:42:09Z"}, {"author": "Benjamin Kaduk", "text": "

Chairs need to really get close to that mic, I guess

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:43:27Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

Mike is pretty clearly audible

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:45:42Z"}, {"author": "Ian Williams", "text": "


", "time": "2022-07-25T17:45:48Z"}, {"author": "Benjamin Kaduk", "text": "

....when he talks into the mic, at least

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:48:20Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

we do not need a replacement for JWS here!

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:49:30Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

this seems like at most a replacement for the payload of a JWS

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:49:54Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

(at least as I understand it)

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:50:14Z"}, {"author": "Roman Danyliw", "text": "

@barnes -- There is a foundational design choice to discuss here

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:54:34Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

@Roman indeed

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:54:42Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hammell", "text": "

I agree that JSON format extensions should not be done in the COSE WG.

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:54:51Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

the hard bits here are going to be how you map things like Merkle trees or zero-knowledge proofs into any serialization. JSON vs. CBOR is secondary.

", "time": "2022-07-25T17:56:15Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

mcr: All the speakers have the cool T-shirts, I guess.

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:10:32Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

disagree that JWT doesn't have a holder!

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:13:37Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

it has a subject, the only difference in VC is that the subject has a public key

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:13:47Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

to clarify the context for my question: As distinct from unlinkability where the issuer creates multiple credentials that are not linkable to each other, and the holder does not manipulate them

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:16:12Z"}, {"author": "Brent Zundel", "text": "

When we started building anonymous credential systems, we wanted to use JOSE because it is well established and there are many existing libraries, but we've never been able to successfully apply the short group signatures we use to the data structures and signing mechanisms that already exist in JOSE.
\nI see the possibility of doing so with JWP and that is very exciting to me.

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:16:35Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

mcr: The use of ~ rather than . suggests that somehow JWPs are trying to pass through some interface that is expecting JWS. Why?

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:17:52Z"}, {"author": "David Waite", "text": "

@Richard: right, the idea is that you can selectively disclose and present a ~single message~, and that only the relevant data (issuer and released claims) can be used for correlation, not the cryptographic elements of that single message itself.

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:19:30Z"}, {"author": "David Waite", "text": "

re: tildes, it one of the few URL-safe delimiters available. Many JOSE libraries assume you can differentiate the type of message based on the number of dot-delimited parts. Using tilde to delimit multiple payloads keeps these from going to variable numbers of parts.

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:22:09Z"}, {"author": "Wendy Seltzer", "text": "

As W3C liaison, I can confirm interest in working with IETF in the Verifiable Credentials WG as adopted: https://www.w3.org/2022/06/verifiable-credentials-wg-charter.html

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:24:41Z"}, {"author": "Karen O'Donoghue", "text": "

we are closing the queue and will move to the questions. We are going to go a few minutes over.

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:27:21Z"}, {"author": "Kristina Yasuda", "text": "

for parity, VC WG is interested in defining SD-JWT as a JWT-VC, too

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:33:12Z"}, {"author": "Kristina Yasuda", "text": "

It's just that SD-JWT can be done within the scope of VC-JWT working item

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:33:30Z"}, {"author": "Kristina Yasuda", "text": "

for JWP, VC WG will have to have a separate deliverable

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:33:42Z"}, {"author": "Roman Danyliw", "text": "

Thank you everyone for participating.

", "time": "2022-07-25T18:34:50Z"}]