[{"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

@SPT the mic is hot.

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:30:18Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

We could just hear your chatter with Nick before we started.

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:32:40Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

It's no fun to spy on them if you tell them, Jonathan :)

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:33:01Z"}, {"author": "Sean Turner", "text": "

mwhahaha

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:33:10Z"}, {"author": "Trent Adams", "text": "

Any chance someone can boost the audio in the room?

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:34:13Z"}, {"author": "Trent Adams", "text": "

(it's a tad quiet)

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:34:22Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

Trent: Hopefully that helps?

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:34:53Z"}, {"author": "Trent Adams", "text": "

Thanks!

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:35:00Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

@Richard Barnes I had my volume up, so you just blasted my head off :joy:

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:35:17Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

dkg: i'll be your jabber scribe if you want me to relay anything to the mic

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:35:25Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

dkg: several more people just walked into the room

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:36:28Z"}, {"author": "Britta Hale", "text": "

That final slide is disturbing in far too many ways...

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:43:06Z"}, {"author": "Rohan Mahy", "text": "

Onward!! mls-protocol to IESG!

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:43:08Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

for the \"extensions after base protocol\" pattern, see, e.g., https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6066

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:48:05Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

status_request!

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:50:58Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

cf. HTTP Accept and Require headers

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:57:08Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9110.html#name-content-negotiation-fields

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:58:06Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

i look forward to being able to send model/vrml with end-to-end security!

", "time": "2022-07-29T16:59:18Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

GroupContextExtensions proposal

", "time": "2022-07-29T17:06:31Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

the zero-length vector thing does seem like premature optimization

", "time": "2022-07-29T17:07:17Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

this is just like ALPN for MLS

", "time": "2022-07-29T17:13:18Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "

so an MLS-ALPN that says \"this is MIMI\", then content negotiation that is MIMI-specific?

", "time": "2022-07-29T17:15:07Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

Ted: yeah, that's what i meant by the alternative

", "time": "2022-07-29T17:15:38Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "

That would simplify the life of the MLS-font distribution to printers use case that Rohan mentioned, as they could have one that was radically simpler than MIMI's.

", "time": "2022-07-29T17:16:29Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

dkg: ALPN in the sense of \"cleartext negotiation bound into the cryptographic handshake\"?

", "time": "2022-07-29T17:16:40Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

dkg: i'd be sad if it's in the clear

", "time": "2022-07-29T17:17:20Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "

@Murray, you're literally an expert here-thoughts?

", "time": "2022-07-29T17:17:59Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

@dkg - It would be less cleartext than TLS. The equivalent of the ClientHello (KeyPackage) would still be unencrypted, but the equivalent of ServerHello (Welcome) would be encrypted.

", "time": "2022-07-29T17:18:44Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

@MeetEcho adjourned.

", "time": "2022-07-29T17:18:58Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

Ack, thanks!

", "time": "2022-07-29T17:19:19Z"}]