[{"author": "Shivan Sahib", "text": "

ohai!

", "time": "2022-07-26T17:30:37Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

We have all the people we really need, I think.

", "time": "2022-07-26T17:32:08Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

Maybe not \"want\".

", "time": "2022-07-26T17:32:19Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "

Careful, I think Robert implemented lolcode in the parser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE)

", "time": "2022-07-26T17:32:20Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

If OHTTP Config Parameters is nil, then could you get a disagreement on the version of OHAI?

", "time": "2022-07-26T17:38:48Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

how could would you arrive in that situation?

", "time": "2022-07-26T17:39:08Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

you can't OHAI without Config

", "time": "2022-07-26T17:39:15Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

Couldn't you have an assumed default config?

", "time": "2022-07-26T17:40:01Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

that's not syntactically possible in the draft right now

", "time": "2022-07-26T17:46:34Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "

+1 on the terminology

", "time": "2022-07-26T17:51:13Z"}, {"author": "Dan Wing", "text": "

(thanks for the zoom)

", "time": "2022-07-26T17:54:59Z"}, {"author": "Hang Shi", "text": "

Good Question

", "time": "2022-07-26T17:55:19Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

Oh, I should point out before I forget, that a redirect is a wonderful thing and a powerful tool in cases where you want to delegate gateway responsibilities to another server...

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:00:59Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

That opens some interesting questions...

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:01:08Z"}, {"author": "Benjamin Schwartz", "text": "

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-schwartz-masque-access-descriptions :)

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:01:58Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

not including relay discovery because it is hard seems like a bad reason

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:02:48Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

Andrew: I think the argument is just for sequencing -- let's do what we know how to do firt

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:03:22Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

@Andrew Campling I think that is an incorrect characterization: we are deferring relay discovery because it is a separable problem.

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:03:25Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

*first

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:03:26Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

@Richard Fair point

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:03:43Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

@Martin I was responding to what I believe was said at the mic, apologies if I misheard

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:04:25Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

@Andrew Campling not a problem, it is hard sometimes to distinguish between \"not now\" and \"no\"

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:05:46Z"}, {"author": "Rui Paulo", "text": "

camera needs to move

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:12:58Z"}, {"author": "Rui Paulo", "text": "

thanks

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:13:19Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

a passing thought: linkability != losing all OHTTP protection. in particular because linkability like Ben is talking about doesn't link to an IP address, which is substantially worse

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:15:58Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

technically, you can rotate the OS

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:16:20Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

@Richard Barnes yeah, that's true, there are lesser losses involved; a unique Target URL creates pseudonymity in place of anonymity, which isn't great, but it isn't a complete loss

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:17:17Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

yeah, if you rotate it 180 degress, it becomes an SO

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:17:41Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

@Martin might be worth capturing in the doc

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:18:06Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

I might do that :)

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:18:20Z"}, {"author": "Matthew Finkel", "text": "

I don't believe that document includes blockchains :)

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:19:01Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

@Martin Thompson As long as the client isn't assuming anonymity, otherwise it could be a problem.

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:20:05Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

kinda disappointed there's no blockchain here tbh

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:22:21Z"}, {"author": "Matthew Finkel", "text": "

I'll classify that as an \"oversight\"

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:23:26Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

this sort of seems like upgrading from MASQUE to OHAI

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:24:37Z"}, {"author": "Samuel Weiler", "text": "

a new id-nits error code? ENOBLOCKCHAIN?

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:25:26Z"}, {"author": "Shivan Sahib", "text": "

+1 to Martin's point

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:27:25Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "

Could this get false conflicts if the server has just re-keyed, or something?

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:28:52Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "

This seems like a useful approach to be adopted by the wg

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:29:19Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

Lennox: seems plausible

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:30:15Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

I find myself disagreeing with @Eric Orth - like Ben, this is OHAI work.

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:30:20Z"}, {"author": "Matthew Finkel", "text": "

Jonathan Lennox said:

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Could this get false conflicts if the server has just re-keyed, or something?

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Yes, but that'll be a problem with any cache. I believe the Chris Wood's key consistency draft talks a bit about these trade-offs.

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:30:26Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

@Matthew Finkel _your_ draft, don't you mean?

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:30:48Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

:)

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:30:51Z"}, {"author": "Matthew Finkel", "text": "

That too :)

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:30:59Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "

MeetEcho: Adjourned.

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:31:42Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

Thx for the heads up!

", "time": "2022-07-26T18:31:54Z"}]