[{"author": "Shivan Sahib", "text": "
ohai!
", "time": "2022-07-26T17:30:37Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "We have all the people we really need, I think.
", "time": "2022-07-26T17:32:08Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "Maybe not \"want\".
", "time": "2022-07-26T17:32:19Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "Careful, I think Robert implemented lolcode in the parser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOLCODE)
", "time": "2022-07-26T17:32:20Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "If OHTTP Config Parameters is nil, then could you get a disagreement on the version of OHAI?
", "time": "2022-07-26T17:38:48Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "how could would you arrive in that situation?
", "time": "2022-07-26T17:39:08Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "you can't OHAI without Config
", "time": "2022-07-26T17:39:15Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "Couldn't you have an assumed default config?
", "time": "2022-07-26T17:40:01Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "that's not syntactically possible in the draft right now
", "time": "2022-07-26T17:46:34Z"}, {"author": "Lucas Pardue", "text": "+1 on the terminology
", "time": "2022-07-26T17:51:13Z"}, {"author": "Dan Wing", "text": "(thanks for the zoom)
", "time": "2022-07-26T17:54:59Z"}, {"author": "Hang Shi", "text": "Good Question
", "time": "2022-07-26T17:55:19Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "Oh, I should point out before I forget, that a redirect is a wonderful thing and a powerful tool in cases where you want to delegate gateway responsibilities to another server...
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:00:59Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "That opens some interesting questions...
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:01:08Z"}, {"author": "Benjamin Schwartz", "text": "https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-schwartz-masque-access-descriptions :)
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:01:58Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "not including relay discovery because it is hard seems like a bad reason
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:02:48Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "Andrew: I think the argument is just for sequencing -- let's do what we know how to do firt
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:03:22Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "@Andrew Campling I think that is an incorrect characterization: we are deferring relay discovery because it is a separable problem.
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:03:25Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "*first
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:03:26Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "@Richard Fair point
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:03:43Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "@Martin I was responding to what I believe was said at the mic, apologies if I misheard
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:04:25Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "@Andrew Campling not a problem, it is hard sometimes to distinguish between \"not now\" and \"no\"
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:05:46Z"}, {"author": "Rui Paulo", "text": "camera needs to move
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:12:58Z"}, {"author": "Rui Paulo", "text": "thanks
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:13:19Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "a passing thought: linkability != losing all OHTTP protection. in particular because linkability like Ben is talking about doesn't link to an IP address, which is substantially worse
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:15:58Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "technically, you can rotate the OS
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:16:20Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "@Richard Barnes yeah, that's true, there are lesser losses involved; a unique Target URL creates pseudonymity in place of anonymity, which isn't great, but it isn't a complete loss
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:17:17Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "yeah, if you rotate it 180 degress, it becomes an SO
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:17:41Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "@Martin might be worth capturing in the doc
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:18:06Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "I might do that :)
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:18:20Z"}, {"author": "Matthew Finkel", "text": "I don't believe that document includes blockchains :)
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:19:01Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "@Martin Thompson As long as the client isn't assuming anonymity, otherwise it could be a problem.
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:20:05Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "kinda disappointed there's no blockchain here tbh
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:22:21Z"}, {"author": "Matthew Finkel", "text": "I'll classify that as an \"oversight\"
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:23:26Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "this sort of seems like upgrading from MASQUE to OHAI
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:24:37Z"}, {"author": "Samuel Weiler", "text": "a new id-nits error code? ENOBLOCKCHAIN?
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:25:26Z"}, {"author": "Shivan Sahib", "text": "+1 to Martin's point
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:27:25Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "Could this get false conflicts if the server has just re-keyed, or something?
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:28:52Z"}, {"author": "Andrew Campling", "text": "This seems like a useful approach to be adopted by the wg
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:29:19Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "Lennox: seems plausible
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:30:15Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "I find myself disagreeing with @Eric Orth - like Ben, this is OHAI work.
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:30:20Z"}, {"author": "Matthew Finkel", "text": "Jonathan Lennox said:
\n\n\nCould this get false conflicts if the server has just re-keyed, or something?
\n
Yes, but that'll be a problem with any cache. I believe the Chris Wood's key consistency draft talks a bit about these trade-offs.
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:30:26Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "@Matthew Finkel _your_ draft, don't you mean?
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:30:48Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": ":)
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:30:51Z"}, {"author": "Matthew Finkel", "text": "That too :)
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:30:59Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Hoyland", "text": "MeetEcho: Adjourned.
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:31:42Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "Thx for the heads up!
", "time": "2022-07-26T18:31:54Z"}]