[{"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "

I'll be Jabber/Zulip scribe; if you're not able to speak into Meetecho for any reason, I can relay comments - prefix anything you'd like relayed with \"mic:\".

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:01:37Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "

can we get MeetEcho to point the camera at the presenter?

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:04:58Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "

:thumbs_up:

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:05:32Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "

naming is hard

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:14:52Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

monosodium glutimate integrity

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:16:56Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "

Hi jack - your mic is _super_ hot.

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:20:47Z"}, {"author": "Jack Rickard", "text": "

Sorry, I'll turn it down a bit.

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:24:07Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "

many thanks

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:24:13Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "

(please remember names at mic - every time, as silly as it feels - matters for remote people who don't know you yet)

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:26:14Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "

(and people that might watch this later on youtube)

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:26:50Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

and the RFC editors love clusters :-)

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:37:38Z"}, {"author": "Pierce Gorman", "text": "

I'm guessing most code finds an error and hits exception handling, and does not try to find all errors before going to exception handling.

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:42:44Z"}, {"author": "Jack Rickard", "text": "

(Was that mic volume better?)

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:46:39Z"}, {"author": "Ben Campbell", "text": "

@jack seemed better in the room

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:46:56Z"}, {"author": "Pierce Gorman", "text": "

Not sure an AS will \"see\" a response from a VS. An STI-AS will most often be used in INVITE/302 or RESTful interface.

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:48:17Z"}, {"author": "Robert Sparks", "text": "

@jack yes

", "time": "2022-07-26T19:49:31Z"}, {"author": "Mary Barnes", "text": "

No. We aren't forcing short lived certs in SHAKEN.

", "time": "2022-07-26T20:05:23Z"}, {"author": "Pierce Gorman", "text": "

Dozens or even hundreds of calls fail verification upon seeing a cert for the first time.

", "time": "2022-07-26T20:06:24Z"}, {"author": "Pierce Gorman", "text": "

Certs are not cached prior to call processing, and downloading certs and verifying the chain (especially long chains as are likely with Delegate Certs) takes TIME

", "time": "2022-07-26T20:07:49Z"}, {"author": "Jack Rickard", "text": "

I don't think particularly strongly I just can't see why it'd be useful

", "time": "2022-07-26T20:17:00Z"}, {"author": "Pierce Gorman", "text": "

TNbyRef and OCSP are both loathesome

", "time": "2022-07-26T20:17:28Z"}, {"author": "Mary Barnes", "text": "

Well, there may be more clever ways to do TNbyRef. But, OCSP is there.

", "time": "2022-07-26T20:18:12Z"}, {"author": "Mary Barnes", "text": "

@Jack We resolve that problem in ATIS by requiring it.

", "time": "2022-07-26T20:19:47Z"}, {"author": "Pierce Gorman", "text": "

+1 for Connected Identity. Non-media INVITEs are common.

", "time": "2022-07-26T20:24:23Z"}, {"author": "Pierce Gorman", "text": "

PRACK is extremely common in wireless

", "time": "2022-07-26T20:26:19Z"}, {"author": "Roman Shpount", "text": "

UPDATE would make more sense here

", "time": "2022-07-26T20:26:33Z"}]