[{"author": "Hans Wang", "text": "


", "time": "2022-11-07T09:33:05Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

i assume masks are optional for remote participants

", "time": "2022-11-07T09:33:46Z"}, {"author": "Deb Cooley", "text": "

nope. LOL

", "time": "2022-11-07T09:35:01Z"}, {"author": "Jonathan Lennox", "text": "

Use video effects to give yourself a virtual mask

", "time": "2022-11-07T09:35:10Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

right now, i am using physical effects to shroud myself in complete darkness

", "time": "2022-11-07T09:35:40Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

Darth Barnes

", "time": "2022-11-07T09:55:21Z"}, {"author": "Kirsty Paine", "text": "

Do head over to notes to help out with note-taking: https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-115-dispatch?edit

", "time": "2022-11-07T09:56:04Z"}, {"author": "Julian Reschke", "text": "

and it lacks a comma

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:03:04Z"}, {"author": "Pete Resnick", "text": "

\"No action\" meaning \"Dispatch to /dev/null\"?

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:07:14Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

That's what I understood.

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:07:41Z"}, {"author": "Kirsty Paine", "text": "

Yes, it means do not take forward

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:07:54Z"}, {"author": "Kirsty Paine", "text": "

if there is support for this work to proceed, please come to the queue and voice that support

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:12:07Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

dkg: wireguard deliberately avoids any fancy authentication mechanisms for the sake of simplicity (endpoints are identified by raw public keys). i suspect that wireguard itself will never adopt fancier authentication schemes

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:12:20Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Petrie", "text": "

vCon bar BoF Thursday 15:30-16:30 Richmond 6

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:14:55Z"}, {"author": "Kirsty Paine", "text": "

Thanks, Dan, we will mention this at the end in the summary

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:18:40Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

Bron should be doing interpretive dance.

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:19:44Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

sftcd1: he is, just very slowly:-)

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:20:10Z"}, {"author": "John Klensin", "text": "

@meetecho: slides not visible remotely. I can see the screen, tell there is something there, but cannot read them -- less than full-frame, high glare, low contrast

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:22:04Z"}, {"author": "Kirsty Paine", "text": "

I can see them fine... anyone else have problems? John, suggest refreshing the page if you haven't yet

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:22:30Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

It's OK for me.

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:22:40Z"}, {"author": "Richard Barnes", "text": "

@jck looking at the virtually presented slides probably more effective

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:22:43Z"}, {"author": "John Klensin", "text": "

ok. Refreshing page ... again

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:22:51Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

@jck: better?

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:24:36Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

Is anyone using any of these yet?

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:26:26Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

JCK: if refreshing doesn't help (or it happens again) please send us a screenshot of what you're getting, as it's not clear to me what the experience is from the description. Make also sure you didn't end up in Gallery mode vs Presentation mode (which would hide the slides, and have them only be partly visible as part of the speaker video)

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:26:37Z"}, {"author": "Kirsty Paine", "text": "

@Murray I will relay your question

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:26:47Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

@kirsty: I'm in the room.

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:29:08Z"}, {"author": "John Klensin", "text": "

Found problem. Sorry to bother people. Lorenzo, you have a UI problem when Meetecho is not full screen or close.

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:29:23Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

JCK: if you could summarize the problem via mail later than would help us look into it, thx!

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:30:22Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "


", "time": "2022-11-07T10:30:31Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

sftcd1: wrt dispatch question, yep a new WG seems right (@kirsty, no need to relay, I'm in the room)

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:31:19Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

dkg: agreed with the dispatch approaceh: new WG sounds good (no need for public relay)

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:31:42Z"}, {"author": "Kirsty Paine", "text": "

Thanks Stephen, all helps with consensus gathering

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:31:57Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

@Kirsty: I'd like the last mic spot for this topic plz

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:32:52Z"}, {"author": "Kirsty Paine", "text": "


", "time": "2022-11-07T10:33:18Z"}, {"author": "John Klensin", "text": "

@Lorenzo: Ack

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:35:09Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

dkg: the \"ugh\" that people are expressing here smells to me like an indication that the assumptions the solutions are making are not well-aligned with the actual underlying problem space.

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:35:20Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

dkg: for example, \"sender reputation\" in the larger cross-domain space that federated messaging (like e-mail) doesn't match \"message reputation\"

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:37:37Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

dkg: but a WG is a reasonable way to sort out this impedence mismatch

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:37:55Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

@dkg: or during chartering

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:38:21Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

dkg: Murray: right. I'd hope that a WG could consider recipient-controlled permissioning something like ORCA (https://www.usenix.org/conference/usenixsecurity22/presentation/tyagi), to accomodate opt-in situations like the mailing list use case

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:41:05Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

@dkg: interesting, I have some homework to do

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:45:54Z"}, {"author": "Cullen Jennings", "text": "

I can't figure out how to get on the q anymore but +1 on recharter Wish WG to do this

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:45:59Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "

I could hear, thank you :)

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:49:51Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "

thank you for keeping the area going by yourself while I was gone Murray!

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:50:37Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

heroic effort, truly

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:50:58Z"}, {"author": "Murray Kucherawy", "text": "

Martin had my back.

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:52:59Z"}, {"author": "Martin Thomson", "text": "

Apropos: https://bytecodealliance.org/

", "time": "2022-11-07T10:58:21Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

dkg: don't knock standardizing APIs -- we need APIs to be able to communicate the properties we believe we are offering to the upper layers

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:00:16Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

sftcd1: this presentation involves the word \"trust\" a lot

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:11:09Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "

Unpacking this slide really makes me wonder how many of the graphics are meant to be semantically important (like the line width variations in the HTTPS example).

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:11:45Z"}, {"author": "Jim Reid", "text": "

Perhaps there should be an RFC for that Ted? And the use of colours, dotted and dashed lines, arrow shapes, etc? :-)

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:13:31Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "

meetecho: i'm hearing remote speaker feedback from the room mic here, i dunno whether you can do anything about that

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:14:01Z"}, {"author": "Ted Hardie", "text": "

April 1 is coming, Jim....

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:14:04Z"}, {"author": "Jabber", "text": "

dkg: jim: color, within an RFC? heretic!

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:14:40Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

Daniel: are you in the room or remote?

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:14:53Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "

i'm remote

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:15:03Z"}, {"author": "Jim Reid", "text": "

We're in London => no horrid American spelling.

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:15:41Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "

that is: i hear the speaker speak, then ~ a second later i hear an echo of their words through what appears to be the room mic

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:15:48Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

We don't seem to hear this in the remote audio

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:18:29Z"}, {"author": "Francesca Palombini", "text": "

thank you!

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:19:44Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "

Lorenzo: maybe the levels got adjusted (or maybe i've misdiagnosed the feedback). no worries!

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:20:11Z"}, {"author": "Daniel Gillmor", "text": "

i'll let you know if i hear it again during the week.

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:20:23Z"}, {"author": "Lorenzo Miniero", "text": "

Thanks, that will help!

", "time": "2022-11-07T11:20:35Z"}]